RIP Robin Williams

[Evedas]

I look down on people ending on their own terms. That's being selfish, not the other way around. He's not the only one suffered from severe depression, alcoholism and other shitty psychological disorder.

Or maybe his goal in life is already fulfilled.

[myriverse]

As someone who has watched too many friends and family waste away from too many diseases, I'm convinced that suicide for this reason is one of the most selfless acts a person can do. The alternative only causes more agony than there need be.

[Evedas]

As someone who pulled through a tough time in the past, with severe depressions at time, and later watching my own uncle who had 2 small kids (not even in education yet), a wife and brain damage that caused him to never leave the house kill himself with alcohol, leaving much agony behind, the act of killing oneself is what I can never accept. Now his family is left for me and my family to take care of, the kids never get the teaching of their father.

I guess we have different perspective.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by Evedas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I look down on people ending on their own terms. That's being selfish, not the other way around. He's not the only one suffered from severe depression, alcoholism and other shitty psychological disorder.

Or maybe his goal in life is already fulfilled.

1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

Pick the more selfish stance.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Originally Posted by Evedas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I look down on people ending on their own terms. That's being selfish, not the other way around. He's not the only one suffered from severe depression, alcoholism and other shitty psychological disorder.

Or maybe his goal in life is already fulfilled.

Do you even know what Parkinson's disease is?

Originally Posted by Evedas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who pulled through a tough time in the past, with severe depressions at time, and later watching my own uncle who had 2 small kids (not even in education yet), a wife and brain damage that caused him to never leave the house kill himself with alcohol, leaving much agony behind, the act of killing oneself is what I can never accept. Now his family is left for me and my family to take care of, the kids never get the teaching of their father.

I guess we have different perspective.

Your anecdote only proves that you have an illogical bias.

First off, for every one of you who are mad that he's dead, there's someone with a living alcoholic parent who wishes the parent was dead. Secondly, Robin Williams' children are adults now so your whole post is irrelevant anyway.

[Evedas]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

I am weak-willed and does not have purpose in life anymore.

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

There is no hope inside me that you will recover and be who you should be.

That's being way too pessimistic for me to pick a stance.

[Lictor]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

Pick the more selfish stance.

You are focusing on the wrong subjective thought process of the individual. Of course loved ones want to be with their parent/sibling/child as long as possible.

Number one is the selfish mentality. I don't want to deal with pain, I don't want to fight for only 10% chance to live, I don't want to go through surgery, I don't want to risk the unknown, I don't want to risk my memories, I don't want to go through chemo, me me me me me, etc...

Whether loved ones feel the above decision is right or wrong by the person commiting suicide is not relevant. The decision to go through with suicide is still selfish.

[loramin]

This is a really long thread, so I didn't make it through the whole thing, but I just wanted to check: did anyone mention the fact that he played EQ back in the day?

[loramin]

Ok, I made it through the whole thread and there's no mention of it, so I guess it's not very common knowledge.

My cousin used to be a GM at SOE ... granted it was for Star Wars Galaxies, but she helped GM for EQ sometimes, and her boyfriend at the time was a senior GM for Everquest. Anyhow, people there talked about famous people who played EQ, and one of those people was Robin Williams. I don't remember much else about it, just that he played a Wood Elf Ranger.

R.I.P. Robin Williams, a fellow classic Everquest gamer and an amazing comedian and actor.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. I don't want to subject myself or my loved ones to my slow deterioration and loss of who I am as a person, or the continued pain of my existence. You guys are going to have to go on without me.

2. I don't want you to leave yet so you should just put up with the physical and mental anguish that will come over the next years while you slowly whither and die before I have to deal with the same loss that will come in the end anyway.

Pick the more selfish stance.

You don't hang yourself while your wife sleeps in the next room because you are trying to avoid making her suffer.