HELP ME ROGEAN!!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is everyone assuming this? I can understand in the case of someone trying to steal back an account they sold years ago. I could even understand in the case of someone trying to claim they owned accounts attached to an eqemu account someone else owned if they hadn't actively used them.

But these two accounts were ones that I had been actively using and logging into up until a month or so ago when Cloki managed to password reset them and take them over from me. In the first two cases, it would be easy to see that the person trying to reclaim/steal the accounts hadn't had access to them in a long, long time via IP addresses. And in MY case, it was obvious I DID have access to them up until Cloki SMS reset the passwords and started playing them himself.

How would it set the worst possible precedence in this situation?

Because you're not a unique snowflake. If you were to get your way it would lead to one of two things.

A) they split off your cleric/bard, you live happily ever after and the staff says this was a one time deal never again. Cries of favoritism ring out from the heavens and all the jimmies in the world are simultaneously rustled

B) they split off your cleric/bard, you live happily ever after and the staff sets precedence for this to happen for other players. Each situation would have to be investigated thoroughly to determine legitimacy of each claim. Massive amounts of man hours would be wasted investing frivilous claims, Sirken would eventually hang himself in a closet while Derubael goes for the quick gunshot to the temple.

Or, and stick with me on this, they could do nothing and avoid both of the previously mentioned scenarios because you should have never given up the emu you idiot after staff said from beginning that they do not condone or fix issues concerning account sales.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are some interesting questions raised in this thread regarding login account ownership vs. eqemu account ownership, pre-rule "grandfathered" account sales, etc.

As for your particular situation though, you have really only lost a 49 cleric. Be happy your losses were so small and move on imo. Take the PL offer. Work with the GMs for the name transfer. Let the staff chew on the questions that came up...and you can go back to just playing EQ (i.e. having fun).

I realize that you have said you're done here...and, to some degree, I would guess you are just venting. To some degree, I can see how you are unhappy with the staff not being able to assist you. But, when the dust settles (life after forum quest), p99 is by far the best place for classic EQ anywhere.

It's a 49 cleric and 54 bard. For someone that has had so little time to play over the years of being here, that was a fairly substantial loss. The majority of my time spent on my cleric Ruinous wasn't even for my own benefit to character progression - the hour or so I'd log in a night was spent handing out free rezzes and buffs to make the game a little bit more enjoyable for others.

So, you and others may see this as a trivial loss because of the level attached. But I see it as far more than that, as it has taken me a large amount of collective time to get my characters where they were, and the name attached to said character meant something to me.

[Ravager]

Really, it's all Gats' fault for talking Cloki into coming back in the first place.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a 49 cleric and 54 bard. For someone that has had so little time to play over the years of being here, that was a fairly substantial loss. The majority of my time spent on my cleric Ruinous wasn't even for my own benefit to character progression - the hour or so I'd log in a night was spent handing out free rezzes and buffs to make the game a little bit more enjoyable for others.

So, you and others may see this as a trivial loss because of the level attached. But I see it as far more than that, as it has taken me a large amount of collective time to get my characters where they were, and the name attached to said character meant something to me.

Cloki offered to level a new cleric for you. Just create a new account login and provide it to him then reap the rewards. At this point, I think you're complaining just for the sake of complaining.

[HippoNipple]

If you can get both parties to agree I don't see why the staff wouldn't allow the characters to be moved or resolve this somehow. If you can prove ownership of the email/sms attached to the characters there shouldn't be a problem if both parties agree on a solution.

I know account swapping and trading isn't allowed but this is an obvious fuck up by bardalicious with no ill intent. The mess ups happened over a long period of time stretching over policy changes. Yes, you can read the rules and say fuck off, you messed up, or you can be realistic and honor the two parties wishes.

100% in the staffs hands to make this work or not. There is no way for them to settle this correctly without some GM intervention.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol? Can anyone decipher what this guy is rambling on about? Who in the hell was I trying to bribe? Just... what?

Yep, that won't work either. Next try?

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a 49 cleric and 54 bard. For someone that has had so little time to play over the years of being here, that was a fairly substantial loss. The majority of my time spent on my cleric Ruinous wasn't even for my own benefit to character progression - the hour or so I'd log in a night was spent handing out free rezzes and buffs to make the game a little bit more enjoyable for others.

So, you and others may see this as a trivial loss because of the level attached. But I see it as far more than that, as it has taken me a large amount of collective time to get my characters where they were, and the name attached to said character meant something to me.

it is what it is. trivial or not.

the only solutions you seem to want are:
1) GM intervention (force the EMU back to you, or split the accounts off the EMU and give them to your EMU), which they've said they won't do. Or,
2) for Pan to give you the eqemu control back, which he won't do and GMs won't force him to do it.

Doesn't seem like GMs or Pan will change their mind on this. So, neither of these is gonna happen.

So, you're choices on the table are...take the PL from Pan for your 49 cleric. or, walk away with nothing. (Hmmm...something or nothing? I'll take something!)

Or, if you are really done playing here it is all a moot point. That you keep posting here suggests that you aren't committed to that course of action yet.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can get both parties to agree I don't see why the staff wouldn't allow the characters to be moved or resolve this somehow. If you can prove ownership of the email/sms attached to the characters there shouldn't be a problem if both parties agree on a solution.

I know account swapping and trading isn't allowed but this is an obvious fuck up by bardalicious with no ill intent. The mess ups happened over a long period of time stretching over policy changes. Yes, you can read the rules and say fuck off, you messed up, or you can be realistic and honor the two parties wishes.

100% in the staffs hands to make this work or not. There is no way for them to settle this correctly without some GM intervention.

Hey, a voice of reason in a raging sea of angry neckbeards.

This is what we both initially wanted. Although admittedly upset at the concept of having to pay for my cleric back, I did think it only fair that he be compensated for his time spent playing and gearing it. And the bard was inconsequential, as he didn't want it to begin with.

The whole thing broke apart because of the lack of assistance by GM's in making this work. They left it to us to resolve it amongst ourselves, when doing so was quite clearly an impossible feat without further assistance on their end.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, a voice of reason in a raging sea of angry neckbeards.

This is what we both initially wanted. Although admittedly upset at the concept of having to pay for my cleric back, I did think it only fair that he be compensated for his time spent playing and gearing it. And the bard was inconsequential, as he didn't want it to begin with.

The whole thing broke apart because of the lack of assistance by GM's in making this work. They left it to us to resolve it amongst ourselves, when doing so was quite clearly an impossible feat without further assistance on their end.

They don't want to deal with raid disputes. Why would they want to deal with account trades? Take the PL or just leave. Sucks shit happened but your not getting your toon back the way it was. No amount of bitching,whining,cocksucking is gonna make that happen for you. At first people probably felt alittle sorry for you but now your just making it worse on yourself.

[Samoht]

I wonder how long until Cloki pulls all offers from the table and leaves you to wallow in your own self-pity.