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Old 08-08-2014, 11:12 AM
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Without Manastone and Robe, my PLing slows down a bit. But not too terribly much. If you're 60 with all your spells, it's pretty solid. From 1-25 I wouldn't notice them missing at all.

Though losing DS potions would hurt for levels 25+. It cuts the amount of time you have to tank in half. Each 10-dose costs about 380pp to make and is sold in EC for 500 plat. The clicks last 12min (12*10=2 hours). So for 250pp/hour, you are doubling your kill speed via DS. They really are a no brainer to use and are quite affordable.

If you want to PL as a complete ungeared person though, make a bard. All you really need are some instruments and some HP gear. Necros don't require much gear either but they are slower PLers than a bard.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:15 AM
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Is it currently offensive/stupid to level up the classic way? Seems like everyone's after a shortcut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:26 AM
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Is it currently offensive/stupid to level up the classic way? Seems like everyone's after a shortcut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
We are leveling up the classic way. Without a +20% bonus for each group member.

Classic EXP favors those who can solo high level mobs. Having high level friends assist you in soloing high level mobs is how you level fast in classic.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:29 AM
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He aggros everything, uses DS potions + Ragefire arms (40ish DS total), spams sit and kills train of mobs. Heals self with CE/Remedy/DL (I'd guess mostly CEs). Regains mana with Donal's + Manastone.
This plus CH bp
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:32 AM
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That's what the Donal's + Manastone is.

Generally, even when corned, I can't channel my 12s cast Robe. I'm guessing Donal's is interrupted more often. And you end up having to use CE/Remedy/DL to heal and then Donal's+Manastone to regain mana.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:32 AM
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Without Manastone and Robe, my PLing slows down a bit. But not too terribly much. If you're 60 with all your spells, it's pretty solid. From 1-25 I wouldn't notice them missing at all.

Though losing DS potions would hurt for levels 25+. It cuts the amount of time you have to tank in half. Each 10-dose costs about 380pp to make and is sold in EC for 500 plat. The clicks last 12min (12*10=2 hours). So for 250pp/hour, you are doubling your kill speed via DS. They really are a no brainer to use and are quite affordable.

If you want to PL as a complete ungeared person though, make a bard. All you really need are some instruments and some HP gear. Necros don't require much gear either but they are slower PLers than a bard.
Bards are faster PLers than necros, for non-AE classes? What's the bard method to PL, say, a warrior or an enchanter?

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Is it currently offensive/stupid to level up the classic way? Seems like everyone's after a shortcut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'd just like to reiterate that I'm asking because I want to power level alts of guildies in my spare time, for fun. I've never bought a PL for any of my characters and I've only sold PL services a couple of times, experimentally. I don't have anything against it, though.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:38 AM
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Bards 25-50, charm mob, fight other mob, break charm when both low. AE Snare/Slow to hold aggro, DS song self, Regen song self. Allow noob toon to hit each once.

Best used on red cons to the noob toon. So that they're getting max exp per kill.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:43 AM
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Bards 25-50, charm mob, fight other mob, break charm when both low. AE Snare/Slow to hold aggro, DS song self, Regen song self. Allow noob toon to hit each once.

Best used on red cons to the noob toon. So that they're getting max exp per kill.
How sustainable is this? Don't bards take 40 minutes to med from 0 mana to full? Is having two mobs beat on each other faster than a necro dotting a mob down?
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:48 AM
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Bards at low levels are soo sick!
Swarm DS, snare let noob hit each and boom
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:57 AM
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We are leveling up the classic way. Without a +20% bonus for each group member.

Classic EXP favors those who can solo high level mobs. Having high level friends assist you in soloing high level mobs is how you level fast in classic.
So grouping is not classic?
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