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[Sheriff]

Necro is gimped compared to live. Why? How can a class go from dominate on live server to gimp on R99? Is that classic?

[Bazia]

classic is being retarded and not carrying shaman cure pots and pumice

[Kergan]

Classic is everyone carrying around better pumice and rechargeable golem wands in addition to cure pots actually.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic is everyone carrying around better pumice and rechargeable golem wands in addition to cure pots actually.

True

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Sheriff [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Necro is gimped compared to live. Why? How can a class go from dominate on live server to gimp on R99? Is that classic?

It was mentioned on the first page. Melee hits way to hard and DD spells land to easily. Two big buffs that help every class besides shaman/necro.

Also people complain about the life drains. Not sure if they are right or not but people say the drains may have been reduced in damage for PvP but the healing component stayed the same. Also, do drains heal when they hit runes and did they on live?

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was mentioned on the first page. Melee hits way to hard and DD spells land to easily. Two big buffs that help every class besides shaman/necro.

Also people complain about the life drains. Not sure if they are right or not but people say the drains may have been reduced in damage for PvP but the healing component stayed the same. Also, do drains heal when they hit runes and did they on live?

Nirgon the expert but I'm pretty sure the heal did full amounts even though the damage was PVP modified. That change alone here would make necros a lot tougher. Don't think they ever healed when hitting a rune though.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon the expert but I'm pretty sure the heal did full amounts even though the damage was PVP modified. That change alone here would make necros a lot tougher. Don't think they ever healed when hitting a rune though.

Since they were overpowered on live getting the tap to at least heal like it should would be enough.

The issue with necros getting YT isn't going to be fixed unless DoTs cause YT regardless of zoning. This isn't a huge problem unless you care about the attention or player made leaderboards. For purposes of PvE and zone control they still do well.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since they were overpowered on live getting the tap to at least heal like it should would be enough.

The issue with necros getting YT isn't going to be fixed unless DoTs cause YT regardless of zoning. This isn't a huge problem unless you care about the attention or player made leaderboards. For purposes of PvE and zone control they still do well.

I agree it doesn't matter if you're trying to take over a zone or win a mob, etc, but everyone likes to see their name in lights sometimes ya know? Playing a shaman its even worse, I can't even drop a trucidation occasionally for a KS.

[Potus]

Lifetap DD never healed full amount ever. Always heals the damage dealt, so Deflux does 220.

There's a lot of reasons why Necros suck here. For starters pets are even worse than live (worse pathing, don't innately DW, dmg/health/pet levels are wrong). Most people you fight are smart enough to keep slots open for dispel. They have cure pots out the ass. This wasn't common on live until way later; you'll recall that Alchemy was bugged for at least a year after EQ came out.

The spell damage numbers for a couple of DoTs are wrong, too. Splurt is missing its last tick, which means a 51 Necromancer could kill a 47ish INT caster outright with Splurt (kind of moot, though, no one is going to let Splurt last more than a tick or two).

So that leaves basically Necros to lifetap to kill people. Sadly, melees are way too strong here, which is baffling because they were badass on live. You're not going to have enough mana to drain down a Monk with 3k hp, let alone live long enough to do it when they're outdamaging both Deflux and your heal over time DoT. Melee hit rate is absurd. Sadly, the developers want to nerf Channeling, so casters are going to get fucked even more.

Spell resists are just flatout fucking broken here. It's silly, Enchanters are pretty much hosed like Necros in that they cannot do damage.

Would love a right-click potion that negated Ice Comet or Harm Touch. DoTs are already shitty, they take forever to do their damage, they have the 2/3 damage reduction, and you can dispel/cure them. Oh, they also resist a lot. How is that even close to fair?

[Kergan]

Necros get two left click abilities that negate ice comet and harm touch.

Need to call Professor Nirgon in on this, pretty sure necro taps healed for full even with reduced PVP damage.