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[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People actually still believe that different races are somehow scientifically different?

I believe Obama referenced the difference between races in his inaugural speech. I think he said something to the effect that we are "Different, but equal."

Don't crucify me if I'm not accurate, but I'm pretty sure that's what he said!


Obama confirmed racist then, too.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he said something to the effect that we are "Different, but equal."




Obama confirmed racist then, too.

i think whats more racist is assuming anything to do with black people is by default racist. those public schools sure did do a good job brainwashing all these shamed nerds.




(i heard glenzig was responsible for slavery in the US)

[Juryiel]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People actually still believe that different races are somehow scientifically different?

Originally Posted by Dragonsblood1987 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, heres something to read supporting what ive said:
http://www.amren.com/news/2008/02/race_and_physic_1/


Facts arent racist, guys. youre all just being ignorant.

People of the same race, or even family are "scientifically" different. How different is a matter of degree. I'm sure if you take means of a bunch of different gene expression amounts and associated phenotypes you'll get differences in any non-randomly selected population, not limited to but also including race. Some are even obvious, e.g. blue eye color.

The question is whether someone is different enough to be a different species. In MOST cases different species are just defined by whether they can reproduce and produce fertile offspring. But like anything in biology that definition is not so clean. In fact I remember some organisms that are technically biologically capable of producing fertile offspring, but because they are behaviorally active at different times, they never meet to reproduce with each other, and are considered different species as a result (by some? all? I forget.). I'm sure there are examples of the reverse also, where two organisms that can produce fertile offspring and do meet to reproduce are considered different species for one reason or another.

With all that said, it's a safe bet that anyone using such insignificant technicalities due to biology not neatly fitting into rigid human concepts to try and draw some qualitative difference between different groups of humans is probably racist. "Species" is a classification for scientific purposes, and all human races fit very squarely in the 'default' definition of being in the same species. In addition scientists are somehow able to get by without needing a technicality exception like the example I gave above to reclassify human races as different species, and still conduct their research. That means that if you can't, it's because you want there to be huge differences to justify your racism.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Originally Posted by Juryiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People of the same race, or even family are "scientifically" different. How different is a matter of degree. I'm sure if you take means of a bunch of different gene expression amounts and associated phenotypes you'll get differences in any non-randomly selected population, not limited to but also including race. Some are even obvious, e.g. blue eye color.

The question is whether someone is different enough to be a different species. In MOST cases different species are just defined by whether they can reproduce and produce fertile offspring. But like anything in biology that definition is not so clean. In fact I remember some organisms that are technically biologically capable of producing fertile offspring, but because they are behaviorally active at different times, they never meet to reproduce with each other, and are considered different species as a result (by some? all? I forget.). I'm sure there are examples of the reverse also, where two organisms that can produce fertile offspring and do meet to reproduce are considered different species for one reason or another.

With all that said, it's a safe bet that anyone using such insignificant technicalities due to biology not neatly fitting into rigid human concepts to try and draw some qualitative difference between different groups of humans is probably racist. "Species" is a classification for scientific purposes, and all human races fit very squarely in the 'default' definition of being in the same species. In addition scientists are somehow able to get by without needing a technicality exception like the example I gave above to reclassify human races as different species, and still conduct their research. That means that if you can't, it's because you want there to be huge differences to justify your racism.

Im still waiting for someone to actually show me where i said anything racist. youre all just regurgitating politically correct, scientifically wrong rhetoric that youve had pounded into your brains from the time you were learning to read. its an absolute shame that youre so backwards in your beliefs, and so insecure and sensitive about obvious, proven differences that you'd rather just parrot "racism" in stead of objectively looking at the proof. why are you so afraid of facts?

[jarshale]

Huh. I never realized how much RMT actually goes on here. Clearly bans don't really help.

[Brynnag]

You are all shitting up my thread.

[iruinedyourday]

yea was gona say the OP forgot to put "how fucking horrible can we make this thread" before the "?" in the original title.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Originally Posted by Brynnag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are all shitting up my thread.

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[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Dragonsblood1987 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im still waiting for someone to actually show me where i said anything racist. youre all just regurgitating politically correct, scientifically wrong rhetoric that youve had pounded into your brains from the time you were learning to read. its an absolute shame that youre so backwards in your beliefs, and so insecure and sensitive about obvious, proven differences that you'd rather just parrot "racism" in stead of objectively looking at the proof. why are you so afraid of facts?

No one said there aren't differences between races. What you were trying to say is that somehow anyone on the African continent, mostly inhabited by black people, are considered different species. That is actually racist to think of a human of a different skin color/culture/nationality as a separate species. How else could it be defined. Its far from a fact. Genetic traits don't constitute separation of species in humans any more than they do in animals. A basset hound is just as much of a dog as a German shepherd. They aren't different species.
You can go right ahead thinking that you have some moral or scientific justification for your position. But all it actually amounts to is racism the same as any other racism throughout history. Viewing humans you don't like as separate and inferior from the humans you do like is racism.

[Dragonsblood1987]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Viewing humans you don't like as separate and inferior from the humans you do like is racism.

I've stated multiple times that I don't think anyone is inferior because of ethnic background, and I certainly don't dislike anyone because of their ethnicity. You're so caught up on wanting to think that facts that contradict the politically correct bullshit you've been taught are racist, you can't seem to comprehend what I've said. I guess you're being racist and assuming that Africa is going to shit because most of the people there are black. Don't be racist.