Smoking weed in group

[purist]

Think whatever you want about it being a gateway drug, but you can't make an empirical claim (e.g. it kills brain cells) based on phony science that's been debunked time after time.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You took what I said out of context. I'm not saying you can't do something stoned. The guy said that he does better when he is stoned.

If you are saying that you couldn't be at the top of your class unless you were stoned, then you are full of shit. I was basically saying if smoking pot makes you better at something then you are a retard to start with.

If you can smoke weed and still get a good grades, big fucking deal school is easy for the most part. For many classes in college I was able to miss half the classes and still get an A or B. Then of course there are the harder classes that you have to put time and effort into along with going to every class.

He never took it out of context.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think whatever you want about it being a gateway drug, but you can't make an empirical claim (e.g. it kills brain cells) based on phony science that's been debunked time after time.

Neither of those studies shows any conclusive evidence that pot smoke does not cause brain dmg. How can you form an actual experiment with only 2 test subjects such as the 2nd test did. It also showed that there was something different in the brain wave patterns in the monkey exposed to pot smoke while in the one that was not showed no effects.
"Exposure to marihuana produces substantial changes in
acute brain electrophysiology but does not appear to produce
persistent functional pathology."
This is from the 2nd link you posted showing that yes indeed pot does effect the brain. The 1st link you posted does not even speak about the effects of pot smoke on the brain at all it just makes conclusions as to general health and at least that one did study more than 2 monkeys.
Yes the 2nd article says that the previous evidence is not supported in their study but their study does seem to be a bit shady if not down right messed up in only using 2 test subjects and not actully doing autopsies on the brains of the monkeys to see if their was actual dmg or not.
Seems like your evidence is not truly supportive of pot smoke not causing brain dmg
Please try to bring better evidence to the table so far mine has stood up and shown that it does cause brain dmg. ture it was done on a scale that it may have been caused by something else(the breathing issue) but the ones you bring forth are actully not even close to proving that it does not

[purist]

Sup. I know you admitted you're dumb and all, but try to pay attention.

This is an argument about there's any evidence THC kills brain cells. Not whether it affects the brain. Not whether it affects your general health. Just whether it kills brain cells.

Both studies replicated the Heath experiment and found no evidence that it does.

If you think they found evidence that it does, please show me where.

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sup. I know you admitted you're dumb and all, but try to pay attention.

This is an argument about there's any evidence THC kills brain cells. Not whether it affects the brain. Not whether it affects your general health. Just whether it kills brain cells.

Both studies replicated the Heath experiment and found no evidence that it does.

If you think they found evidence that it does, please show me where.

Neither study replicates the original experiment in no way no how did they even come close to doing what the 1st experiment did.
Hell the 2nd experiment only used 2 monkeys and did show change in brain wave patterns since that is all it was looking at
The 1st one did not even look at the brain at all and went a bit further at doing mabey 1/8 the exposure the original experiment did but again it did not study the brain at all.
So again bring something to the table that actully refutes the evidence that it does or bring nothign at all cause so far thats what you have done. Brought a couple of half baked expeirments that did not even look at the brain cells of the monekys and were in no way in the scale of dosage or monekys used to make a true control that the 1st experiment was
Bring real conclusive evidence cause so far you have brough half assed crap

[purist]

Fuck, I actually agree with you. You definitely smoked yourself stupid.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He never took it out of context.

He took a small part and argued against it instead of looking at the entire statement.

Dwelling on one part of a statement and agrueing with it without touching on the thought as a whole is taking it out of context.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He took a small part and argued against it instead of looking at the entire statement.

Dwelling on one part of a statement and agrueing with it without touching on the thought as a whole is taking it out of context.

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Being stoned dumbs you down and makes you react slower. Maybe if you are half retarded and your mind wonders when you are sober being high could limit you to only be able to think about 1 thing at a time... but that just means you are stupid.

I saw that his argument stayed on track with your statement of calling stoners "dumb" by the mere fact that you said "being stoned dumbs you down" which in turn can conclude that said person is dumb. Unless I'm reading it wrong and you didn't call stoners dumb at all. Also, in many cases when you said "your mind wanders" doesn't really count as being retarded, probably just bored in the subject.

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In 1974, Dr. Robert G. Heath, a researcher at Tulane University in New Orleans, reported that he had found proof that marijuana caused brain damage while experimenting on monkeys. Heath reported that rhesus monkeys smoking an equivalent of 30 joints a day began to atrophy and die after just 90 days. Autopsies revealed that the monkeys who had been exposed to the marijuana smoke had more dead brain cells than the control monkeys, who had not been exposed.

Is this proof enough?
does not dead brain cells = dumber?

I believe the brain cell loss was was due to the gas masks being pumped FULL of pot smoke. Deplete brain of oxygen and brain cells die. How do you think those monkeys died?

[Seaweedpimp]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL dude I saw that after i posted mine. It looks like yours got posted while i was wrting mine. I will read ther studies and see if they shed new or more light onto a subject I actully lived. you can study all you want but my life experiance says it makes you dumber. True that could be from all the other drugs pot led me to try and use for manty years but it was the 1st and opener to my drugie life that i lived for longer than most of you have been alive

Pot didnt lead you to try shit. Prove it.

You're dumber because of all the OTHER drugs you did..

Hahaha what a dumbass.