A lesson to all new guilds.

[Elderan]

Azrael 3.0 = Defeated
Azrael 6.0 = Defeated
Azrael 9.0 = Defeated
Force + Azrael 12.0 = Defeated (60 people at peak)
Azrael 15.0 = Defeated
Heresy + Azrael 18.0 = Defeated (50 people at peak)
Azrael 21.0 = Defeated
Red Dawn 2.0 + Azrael 24.0 = Defeated (90 people at peak)
Azrael 27.0 = Defeated (50 people at peak)

Anyway you look at it, allying with Azrael is not a good idea.

Have a nice day.

[Colgate]

what about azrael 4.0, 5.0, 7.0, etc?

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what about azrael 4.0, 5.0, 7.0, etc?

They were here and gone so fast, mostly vaporware.

[Genedin]

Kind of agree. Really would like to see 3rd guild stay autonomous.
Kind of hard with so many well-geared players on the box with super toons and no one to kill with then.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of agree. Really would like to see 3rd guild stay autonomous.
Kind of hard with so many well-geared players on the box with super toons and no one to kill with then.

Its not hard really. Explain to people this is a 6-12 month process. Take it slow, and talk with the main rival guilds to stay neutral.

What happens in 2-3 months is the new guilds get itchy and think with the ally they can take Nihilum down. Thats a huge mistake because at that point you will either win or be crushed. The chance of winning are very slim as the record shows.

Stay neutral , stay the the faction Nihilum isn't on, negotiate raid truces.

[Elspeth]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please dont challenge us, we are on the verge of self destruct.

[Colgate]

why don't you mention the parts like azrael 12.0 beating nihilum until sundawg got rogaine the flip the switch a few times for you guys?

[heartbrand]

I know seawall likes to peddle that story but can we be honest between aim pals for a moment? The kringe az shit came out of no where. Nihilum had a bunch of vets afk not logging on, we were doing 19 man trakanon's, no one had to pvp for over a year etc. Within three weeks the majority of nilly had returned, our numbers had swelled up, we had picked off some people from Az and the tide was turning. Reset or no reset, the Kringe AZ was on the verge of losing. It also lasted like 10 days [1 repop day and a few trakanons]. Not trying to take away anything, but this wasn't some like months long domination stopped only by the evil Rogaine. We had actually beat you guys @ the following repop week.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know seawall likes to peddle that story but can we be honest between aim pals for a moment? The kringe az shit came out of no where. Nihilum had a bunch of vets afk not logging on, we were doing 19 man trakanon's, no one had to pvp for over a year etc. Within three weeks the majority of nilly had returned, our numbers had swelled up, we had picked off some people from Az and the tide was turning. Reset or no reset, the Kringe AZ was on the verge of losing. It also lasted like 10 days [1 repop day and a few trakanons]. Not trying to take away anything, but this wasn't some like months long domination stopped only by the evil Rogaine. We had actually beat you guys @ the following repop week.

verge of losing? i recall us still having 45+ people while you guys struggled to get 30 and you'd lose every fight or refuse to contest(one of the last trakanons being the one where we had 45 and you guys had 25, ended with the stasis train in the jail)

after the 3rd? server reset after neckbearding trakanon to 5 AM for the 3rd time, like 25 people quit and that was it

don't think 25 people would've dropped the game had we continued to win without the server getting reset over and over

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

verge of losing? i recall us still having 45+ people while you guys struggled to get 30 and you'd lose every fight or refuse to contest(one of the last trakanons being the one where we had 45 and you guys had 25, ended with the stasis train in the jail)

after the 3rd? server reset after neckbearding trakanon to 5 AM for the 3rd time, like 25 people quit and that was it

don't think 25 people would've dropped the game had we continued to win without the server getting reset over and over

ya sorry but that's completely inaccurate, but pointless to debate with you because even if I post the DKP logs showing the loot etc., you'll just troll. you got ONE vs from ONE repop and a few trakanons.