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[Dragonsblood1987]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know, I live in Houston, too. I'm curious about your thoughts regarding the Equal Rights Ordinance that just passed here. Do you think employers should be able to fire their employees for being gay? I ask because it's the same thing, and I'm curious to see what you think about that.

All those good wholesome traditional marriage bible thumpers are just scared they're gay. not sure why theyre scared of that though. i guess they dont want teh sanctity of their 4th marriage to be devalued. if they think god created everything and all that bullshit, where did being gay come from?

[Dragonsblood1987]

And personally, i think worrying about who other people are fucking is more befitting of the phrase "acting like a faggot" than actually being gay.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Faron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sitting in a dentist waiting room being entertained by 10 pages of nonsense opinions of people who live in an old game.

Its awesome and sad at the same time isn't it?

[Dragonsblood1987]

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[p99soundsok]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Companies are not people and should be afforded NO constitutional rights.

fortunately, dim-witted fools such as yourself cannot make such things happen.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a loaded question.

But, generally, yes. It might be because the owner is a huge jerk, or it might be because the hiring organization has a specific moral code. Whatever those reasons, it should generally be the owner's prerogative to make these decisions. Is there a benefit of outlawing this practice? Yes, you protect gays from bosses being asses and firing them just because of that with no backing reason. Is there a down side? Absolutely, such laws tend to tie the hands of organizations that do possess legitimate codes of conduct and would have a good reason to not hire that person.

Such laws often have exceptions built in similar to the old "bona fide occupational qualification" standard, but such laws often have poor execution of their exceptions that, in my opinion, often make them not worth the negatives.

Does the law allow people to be fired for being gay? Yes, in many places. Should it? Probably yes because of what it means to the freedom of association of business owners with sincerely held beliefs.

I wasn't intending it as a loaded question. I'm not going to be like, LOOK EVERYBODY, XASTEN'S A HOMOPHOBE HE SAID GAYS SHOULD BE FIRED. I really just wanted to know if your opinion was that employer powers stretched that far. Now I know they do. I disagree entirely, but these are opinions and they're allowed to not be the same.

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does the law allow people to be fired for being gay? Yes, in many places. Should it? Probably yes because of what it means to the freedom of association of business owners with sincerely held beliefs.

This is worse than anything else I've read on these forums because I know you actually believe it.

[Faron]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is worse than anything else I've read on these forums because I know you actually believe it.

So you don't think the owner of a business should be able to choose who they employ for whatever reason they want?

[Heebo]

Originally Posted by Faron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you don't think the owner of a business should be able to choose who they employ for whatever reason they want?

Choosing to terminate an employee you've already hired, presumably because they were the most qualified candidate for the job, because of any reason that doesn't impact their ability to continue to perform their job at a high level is medieval.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Choosing to terminate an employee you've already hired, presumably because they were the most qualified candidate for the job, because of any reason that doesn't impact their ability to continue to perform their job at a high level is medieval.

I agree with that.