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Old 07-09-2014, 02:47 AM
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Cool My experience with SEQ and "Lazy Aggro"

Speaking from direct experience and with a clear memory of pathing behaviors back in the day, I can say that there was not a time that you would lose agro because you were too far away from a mob. In fact- the entire hallmark of EQ was that you never lost agro until you left the zone. Making it otherwise would be ridiculous and destructive to classic gameplay.
What WOULD happen when you got far enough away from a mob is that the mob would begin to find 'creative' paths to get to the puller. This would result in the mob shooting off sideways in various directions, or sometimes deciding to go backwards away from the puller. Said mob would continue to hand off their agro to social mobs along the way, and eventually an entire zone would get all riled up and a puller may not be aware of it until BAM a huge train of mobs decided to find a path to them. The biggest example that I can recall of this was in the Plane of Fear.
I can remember many times in fear where my raid would be meditating waiting for a pull and a mob would come from far away straight at the group- we would then all have to camp out because we realized that someone had the mob on agro and wasn't aware. This happened because fear is a large open zone and thus mobs had a ton of choices on how to get to the puller- or more accurately Verant didn't have the best coding in the world so their pathing AI needed some work.
This didn't seem to happen in indoor zones as the path choices were more clearly defined and therefore mobs wouldn't get lost like in Fear, Burning Woods, or Dreadlands (where it seemed to happen more commonly).
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Old 07-09-2014, 08:24 PM
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In other words, while this might be a "classic" feature that is missing its still not going to stop Chardok AE groups even if implemented because dungeons didn't have it.
It happened in WW. I vividly remember getting my ass chomped fear kiting animals on the ol ranger. Icy burrowers would go back home and then get your ass if you got close...but not in aggro range.
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Old 07-09-2014, 02:52 AM
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Wasn't implemented til Luclin. So shut the fuck up.
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:29 AM
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Believe what you like. Opinions are fine. I prefer evidence though and Im the only one that has bought any relevant evidence to the discussion.

My evidence stands unchallenged by yours. Therefore until you provide some I win, you lose, end of fucking story girls.
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Old 07-09-2014, 06:44 AM
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Believe what you like. Opinions are fine. I prefer evidence though and Im the only one that has bought any relevant evidence to the discussion.

My evidence stands unchallenged by yours. Therefore until you provide some I win, you lose, end of fucking story girls.
You don't win unless the server gets patched with these changes, bug report it and lets see what happens.
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Old 07-09-2014, 04:57 AM
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know whats not retarded? this full level i got in chardok tonight. u mad bro
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Old 07-09-2014, 07:41 AM
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know whats not retarded? this full level i got in chardok tonight. u mad bro
No I feel sorry for you.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:10 AM
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Any progress on the actual bug report side of this? Just curious.
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Old 07-09-2014, 09:13 AM
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I have leveled 4 characters to 60 without Chardok. I have level 1 character to 60 with Chardok. In the future, I will be going the Chardok route.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:34 PM
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Have to necro this thread due to my morbid curiosity. What has happened, if anything, with your official petition side of this Ikon? Anything to update us on?
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