so you guys are looking for EQ Minus....

[Kekephee]

Last time I logged in my head melted because there was so much shit happening at once. I would return to a simplified game with like 20 fewer expansions.

[Ikonoclastia]

Gimme a hard game, without MQ, powerleveling mechanics, green mob farming and EQ's immersion and ideas and I'd pay a premium for it. I was paying for 10 accounts in EVE so I'd be more than happy to pay 100 a month for a hardcore fantasy mmo without the shite and shitebags.

1 account, 1 character per account, no proxies, no boxing, botting, RMT, cashshops, etc etc...

[iruinedyourday]

To get me they'd have to pay rogen and staff 10x what rogen and staff ask for in order to make it a legit server.

[iruinedyourday]

It doesnt have the one of arguably p99s most important thing.

Make eq as much as it possibly can be the way it was in 1999

I mean what Rogen & Nilbog have been able to do is make a better game, by themselves for free in a fraction of the 12+ years it took sony to slowly, expansion after expansion reduce their user base.

Sure p99 isnt exactly classic EQ, but if time froze and all we could do is play on the classic servers for the rest of our lives, p99 is exactly what it would be. People love p99 because the game was just overall better than it is post velious. Sure there were some decent things that came out of 12+ years of development, but overall it and all the MMO's that followed Classic EQ never managed to capture the same ascetic, feel, and plain old challenge. Classic EQ really is the D&D of MMO's.

Looking at Live, even on progression they got it wrong. That's because they made it guessing what it was people wanted. Rogan said, fuck it I'm gona MAKE what I want. You cant just replicate that kind of passion.

P99 is as much an anomaly IMO as ClassicEQ was.

Give Rogan directors cut and 30 million dollars, and Ill play whatever it is he makes.

Honestly sony is so bad, I half expect you to be the president of SoE, literately begging us to tell you what it is they have to do to stop fucking up.

We cant help you mr. president! Live BLOWS.

[Ikonoclastia]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesnt have the one of arguably p99s most important thing.

Make eq as much as it possibly can be the way it was in 1999

I mean what Rogen & Nilbog have been able to do is make a better game, by themselves for free in a fraction of the 12+ years it took sony to slowly, expansion after expansion reduce their user base.

Sure p99 isnt exactly classic EQ, but if time froze and all we could do is play on the classic servers for the rest of our lives, p99 is exactly what it would be. People love p99 because the game was just overall better than it is post velious. Sure there were some decent things that came out of 12+ years of development, but overall it and all the MMO's that followed Classic EQ never managed to capture the same ascetic, feel, and plain old challenge. Classic EQ really is the D&D of MMO's.

Looking at Live, even on progression they got it wrong. That's because they made it guessing what it was people wanted. Rogan said, fuck it I'm gona MAKE what I want. You cant just replicate that kind of passion.

P99 is as much an anomaly IMO as ClassicEQ was.

Give Rogan directors cut and 30 million dollars, and Ill play whatever it is he makes.

Honestly sony is so bad, I half expect you to be the president of SoE, literately begging us to tell you what it is they have to do to stop fucking up.

We cant help you mr. president! Live BLOWS.

Amen

[a_gnoll_pup]

there's life after velious

?!?!?!??!

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesnt have the one of arguably p99s most important thing.

Make eq as much as it possibly can be the way it was in 1999

I mean what Rogen & Nilbog have been able to do is make a better game, by themselves for free in a fraction of the 12+ years it took sony to slowly, expansion after expansion reduce their user base.

Sure p99 isnt exactly classic EQ, but if time froze and all we could do is play on the classic servers for the rest of our lives, p99 is exactly what it would be. People love p99 because the game was just overall better than it is post velious. Sure there were some decent things that came out of 12+ years of development, but overall it and all the MMO's that followed Classic EQ never managed to capture the same ascetic, feel, and plain old challenge. Classic EQ really is the D&D of MMO's.

Looking at Live, even on progression they got it wrong. That's because they made it guessing what it was people wanted. Rogan said, fuck it I'm gona MAKE what I want. You cant just replicate that kind of passion.

P99 is as much an anomaly IMO as ClassicEQ was.

Give Rogan directors cut and 30 million dollars, and Ill play whatever it is he makes.

Honestly sony is so bad, I half expect you to be the president of SoE, literately begging us to tell you what it is they have to do to stop fucking up.

We cant help you mr. president! Live BLOWS.

This.

In a nutshell, this.

If Elidroth reads these forums long enough and hard enough he'll get it too. I'd pay 15 bucks a month or more for one account here if it were mandated. Hell sony could straight up buy this server and leave the present creators and GMs as paid staff to rule and fix as they see fit and I'd pay double the subscription cost that SoE live requires for gold. This isn't what I truly want - but if it doubled the player base on the server it'd be a good thing IMO.

15 bucks a month meant something when I was a poor college kid and broke high school kid. It's chump change at this point in my life. This server delivers what Live doesn't for me and I'd pay for it.

[drew0987654]

reading all those posts was pretty enlightening. it's sad how they'd have to throw away expansions full of zones to make most of you happy. I doubt you need as much as you think you do, I think you're listing everything that you'd like to be changed instead of the bare minimum required change to get you back. I'd put up with a lot of nonsense and go back right now if they weren't giving away free lvl 85 chars with all of the aa's for example, but of course I'm also saying I'd like no mercs, no fast travel, no crazy gear, and a real death penalty. especially for those of you whose deals aren't broken with a certain expansion, I can't imagine you'd need more than that.

I loved the complaint about the "dildo helm" model in luclin, that's my fav so far. I tried pretty hard to find it but either the poster was exaggerating or google has failed me...

out of curiosity, I know no one really knows yet, but what are your hunches regarding EQNext? what did you guys think of eq2?!

[a_gnoll_pup]

Originally Posted by drew0987654 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

out of curiosity, I know no one really knows yet, but what are your hunches regarding EQNext? what did you guys think of eq2?!

I liked early EQ2, but like other SOE games, it tried to conform to the mainstream rather quickly and died off because it became another WoW clone. Also, SOE did nothing about the ISXEQ2 program and just like EQ1, the game has become bot city.

EQNext will likely meet the same fate, although, right now it's not even looking like SOE needs to work on EQNext. The few people they brainwashed in Landmark are doing it for them.

With how much revenue they will earn from Landmark, PlanetSide 2, and H1Z1, I doubt they will even need to make EQNext into a reality.

[Daldaen]

Allow boxing
Add Luclin, PoP, LoY, LDoN and post-fixes-GoD
Classic Mechanics up to that point

^ Perfection. Al'Kabor was close... would've been nice to have LoY/LDoN/GoD to that server for a bit more content. But naturally SOE kills their best server and doesn't even try to capitalize on it by making some renovations and charging subscriptions.