For those that questioned Salem's integrity

[Colgate]

in teeks's own video you can see lithiuum down in the water

case closed dawgs, anyone who argues against this is either trolling or retarded

probably retarded

[Not Salem]

In every case but the one in which you don't see me (actually me playing) - the players continue to swim forward, but in the situation you do not see me, as well as the one I was in with Teeks, I swam in the opposite direction I was running. Teeks does not look behind him at first. The corner I chose to cast torpor in is behind and to the right of where I disappeared from, and you can see me casting it in the video he posted of me supposedly screen dragging.

thx Colgate/Syft, answered for me.

[bl0rg]

no point even screen dragging in this scenario when your ontop of a pool of water with Z axis buggin right at your doorstep. Any good player would know this.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Not Salem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In every case but the one in which you don't see me (actually me playing) - the players continue to swim forward, but in the situation you do not see me, as well as the one I was in with Teeks, I swam in the opposite direction I was running. Teeks does not look behind him at first. The corner I chose to cast torpor in is behind and to the right of where I disappeared from, and you can see me casting it in the video he posted of me supposedly screen dragging.

thx Colgate/Syft, answered for me.

Honest question, how long was lith banned for this?

[Not Salem]

Honest answer, he still is.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Syft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unless the video caught him appearing behind teeks there is no way to prove he actually screen dragged.

He could have lagged, teeks could have lagged. Could have missed him swimming down, too much reasonable doubt to say he should be banned. I could understand maybe a suspension as a warning because it's unclear!

But a ban over such a lack of evidence nah!

I actually agree with Syft on this one. The video of Lithium looks the worst out of all these examples (none of the recreations of this showed someone moving as fast or as far as Lithium seemed to move when swimming straight down), which is pretty bad since I'm sure they were at this forever trying to find a couple clips that looked just right but a ban from this evidence alone is pretty strict. We are also assuming this is the only evidence the GMs had which may or may not be correct.

If people think this server is already crap it is really going to be shit if people actually use ghosting/screen dragging in PvP. If cases like this come up in the future and GMs are 100% sure this is being used the players do need to be banned along with every character they have logged into. Way worse than RMT in my opinion.

[Mac Drettj]

Lites video you can clearly see people swimming down.

In Teeks petition video you can clearly see lithiumm accelerating and poofing. Most likely caused by snapping back from a Window drag.

Truth be told banquest is stupid and nobody should be Involved. But considering azrael has Filthy whistles while pointing fingers, I think it's fair to expect equal punishment.

[Not Salem]

Already been adressed Retti, if Lithiuum was in front of Teeks in the water, he would not have been seen because his UI literally blocked 1/3rd of his screen.

Furthermore in none of the examples shown by Elderan, does the character screendragging speed up. However in the examples shown of characters swimming across the water, all speed up.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lites video you can clearly see people swimming down.

In Teeks petition video you can clearly see lithiumm accelerating and poofing. Most likely caused by snapping back from a Window drag.

Truth be told banquest is stupid and nobody should be Involved. But considering azrael has Filthy whistles while pointing fingers, I think it's fair to expect equal punishment.

I never like to see people banned. But ghosting and screen dragging has gotten so bad that some people have to be banned to convince people to stop doing it.

[Not Salem]

Yeah I agree with Elderan, in the 2 weeks prior to Lithiuum being banned, during the time frame that Beastagor was banned for training Hoshkar (which was later proved to the GM's I didn't do), both Raenys and Drez screendragged to try and avoid dying to me on my rogue.

I doubt either will be now after I ate this ban.