attention RL info posting nerds

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Untrue

First result on google shows that employers can be held liable for employee actions


http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...cts-29638.html

It's not that easy. Read the last 10 or so posts. Obviously employers are liable for employee actions when they are within the scope of that employee's duties

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respondeat_superior

[Fael]

Loraen said that the entity trained should determine who is responsible--or at least whether it would be deemed a raid violation or not.

Thus, since 30 bda got trained and 30 bda are a raid then one intentional train by person in guild X should constitute guild action and raid interference.

Dolic

[Duckwalk]

The question turns on whether Dinacarl's actions benefitted TMO as a guild.

Now considering rumors that TMO group was there to snipe certain mobs/prevent rival guild gear certain classes.....

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So when chest takes such hard lines... And is dead fucking serious about it (I had the great pleasure of listening to his vent recording), are we to believe that he is just being RNF snarky?

It's hard to differentiate seeing as everyone in bda are toeing the same party line.

Dolic

Where do you get the expectation that it should be easy to differentiate seriousness/trolling/snarkiness in RNF?

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loraen said that the entity trained should determine who is responsible--or at least whether it would be deemed a raid violation or not.

Thus, since 30 bda got trained and 30 bda are a raid then one intentional train by person in guild X should constitute guild action and raid interference.

Dolic

Would you say the presence of guild leadership at an event constitutes a guild event, since guild officers are understood to be guild officers 24/7, always representing and responsible for their guild? It's not like we're talking about 4 people who happen to be tagged in a guild just hanging out and one of them does something stupid. Although, even if we were, an argument could pretty easily be made that since the group is composed entirely of members of a guild, they, too, are representing said guild, and accountable as representatives of that guild for their actions, right?


I don't care about the train or any of this anymore, I'm just interested philosophically since you're bringing legal arguments into the discussion

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as I know, players don't have the ability to track IP and globally monitor trade.

No. And you think giving certain players that ability will abate the conspiracy theories?

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A) I wasn't removed, I voluntarily left.
B) LOL. It's funny because you're implying that I was shit.
C) I don't consider the actions I've disclosed here a mistake.
D) Don't even associate me with Amelinda.

If there's any point I've made here, it's that I handled things in an entirely different time, and I did it effectively. And I stand by every decision I made. As a consequence, Tiggles and I got the first plat selling website shut right the fuck down. That was a notch I don't believe you have under your belt.

So before you judge, get educated.

Uthgaard 2014

[Lictor]

Perhaps the fear trainer is an independent contractor for the unwritten partnership furthering the joint venture of RMT from two members of TMO. Thus decreasing liability.

[Fountree]

Come back Uth!!!

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question turns on whether Dinacarl's actions benefitted TMO as a guild.

Not yet. The bouncer example attaches liability in that physical torts are practically expected as part of the fulfillment of his duties. However, the Glitter Factory isn't liable when their bouncer goes across the street and blows up Bushwacker's Gentlemen's club which would ultimately benefit the former.

Training the shit out of someone is not to be expected of or anticipated of a pulling monk unless Tortue is on the job.