Lols TMO

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And my position of removing face trackers from tagging is now a drum that Mazam is furiously banging. Add soothsayer to my list of titles.

Go ahead and take credit for something several people have brought up. You were one of a few that brought it up. Love that integrity taking credit for several peoples ideas.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glorious Dear Leader Soothsayer Chest, of house Bregan, first of his name, king of the Casuals and the Entitled, Lord of the two Raid Classes, and protector of the Loot Vending Machine

I wouldn't call him entitled. I do like the rest of the title though.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Anichek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're reinforcing my point. It's not an excuse. It's the reason why he wasn't the person to file the petition. It's the reason why Cucumbers proxied the conversation initially after the event.

I don't have any problem with you or most of the trolls in RnF - but the hard-on's you carry from your Chesthate is second to none.

Take him out of the equation. Train occurs. Train is denied as being a train by an officer of TMO. Talk ensues later in vent, doesn't go well. Petition is filed. Petition was immediately denied without being vetted completely. Talks continue, and post is made in Raid Discussion in an attempt to escalate, as direct attempts to contact Rogean in an escalation effort are not fruitful.

Seems like a logical progression of events, from "train occurs" up to this point....just haven't come to an agreement yet.

The logical progression of events should have been.

Train occurs. Train is denied as being a train by an officer of TMO. Talk ensues later in vent, doesn't go well. Petition is filed. No mention of absurd two month suspension is made. Trainer is dealt with by GMs via petition forum as per usual. Case closed.

[khanable]

That was a funsies jab at Class R, actually

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was a funsies jab at Class R, actually

It worked.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The logical progression of events should have been.

Train occurs. Train is denied as being a train by an officer of TMO. Talk ensues later in vent, doesn't go well. Petition is filed. No mention of absurd two month suspension is made. Trainer is dealt with by GMs via petition forum as per usual. Case closed.

It's Chests crusade to destroy TMO that turned this into a complete shitshow. Not every dispute that occurs between guilds is taken directly to the raid discussion forums when the petitioner's ridiculous demands aren't immediately met by GMs.

[Anichek]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The logical progression of events should have been.

Train occurs. Train is denied as being a train by an officer of TMO. Talk ensues later in vent, doesn't go well. Petition is filed. No mention of absurd two month suspension is made. Trainer is dealt with by GMs via petition forum as per usual. Case closed.

The 2 months is the antithesis to "we'll have him pull for you" as punishment.

Would TMO ever, EVER want a BDA member to pull a raid for them?

Both were equally ridiculous.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Anichek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The 2 months is the antithesis to "we'll have him pull for you" as punishment.

Would TMO ever, EVER want a BDA member to pull a raid for them?

Both were equally ridiculous.

There really isn't another resolution to this though. I mean besides us AoEing Fear for you guys and letting you loot the corpses. We don't know what the compensation should be for people being immature and one guy doing something wrong on his own.

I understand the view point many of you have and how what he did is upsetting. You can't blame the entire member base of our guild for that... Just like we can't hold grudges and hold all of your members accountable because Chest is the way he is. Just put something reasonable on the table and you will be surprised how easy everyone is to work with.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There really isn't another resolution to this though. I mean besides us AoEing Fear for you guys and letting you loot the corpses. We don't know what the compensation should be for people being immature and one guy doing something wrong on his own.

I understand the view point many of you have and how what he did is upsetting. You can't blame the entire member base of our guild for that... Just like we can't hold grudges and hold all of your members accountable because Chest is the way he is. Just put something reasonable on the table and you will be surprised how easy everyone is to work with.

Except chest didn't train a TMO raid. Me being an intolerant curmudgeon isn't against the rules.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except chest didn't train a TMO raid. Me being an intolerant curmudgeon isn't against the rules.

I mean the spin and deflection is nice by you, but it doesn't resolve anything. When do we get past your grudges and resolve this like reasonable people. You shouldn't need your hand held by a GM to force you to be reasonable and make decisions for you all the time.