Alright, IB, Dozekar and Blackwater, knock it off

[taxi2]

I love how loke presents the alternatives.

Would you like a private firm of mercenaries known for their trigger fingers in Iraq or would you like to see soldiers in the streets?

How about a civilian response team, trained for disasters like this, is that like so far-fetched and socialist for your mind?

[Dominick]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a critique of the toothlessness of affidavits, not a critique of the veracity of the charges. Can you tell the difference?



So, you're assuming all allegations of misconduct by Blackwater must be false because those with the executive power to reign in Blackwater haven't already done so?

If you really can't see the flaws in that logic, allow me add you to my ignore list.

Poor wounded king defense then? Go ahead and add me, it doesn't matter to me.

These are toothless affidavits, that are not credible, and don't have charges that can be proved. How do you show in a court of law that Prince hates Muslims?

I posted a link to the affidavit because it proved the case clearly that these are political stunts not documents that we would file to end an injustice.

My point that is if an executive who can prevent a crime, does nothing with knowledge a crime is occurring, then they are culpable morally if not legally.

Obama is supposed to be "hope and change" but if such horrors are happening now, then they are his responsibilities. it doesn't look like he believes that murder of federal agents, rapes of American soldiers and all the innocent civilian deaths are worthy of note.

Even if he was somehow unable to cancel a contract that most every federal contact auditor can cancel with a simple memo, don't you think he would have made a speech or maybe even invited Blackwater over for a beer summit?

[Hasbinbad]

Prince's personal intolerance for anything that isn't white and christian is a matter of public record. There are quite enough quotes of his floating around so that anyone with half a brain (which some of you [azeth] apparently don't) can make the leap in logic that if he spews so much hatred when microphones and cameras are in front of him, that he must really have some serious negative feelings towards them; most people who are racist/homophobic, etc., try and tone it down a bit in public.

..not that many of you will be able to put two and two together and come up with four..

..just saying..

[Hasbinbad]

don't have*

DAMN YOU NO EDIT BUTTON!! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLL!!!!

[New England Patriots]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prince's personal intolerance for anything that isn't white and christian is a matter of public record. There are quite enough quotes of his floating around so that anyone with half a brain (which some of you [azeth] apparently don't) can make the leap in logic that if he spews so much hatred when microphones and cameras are in front of him, that he must really have some serious negative feelings towards them; most people who are racist/homophobic, etc., try and tone it down a bit in public.

..not that many of you will be able to put two and two together and come up with four..

..just saying..

hasbinbad fuck off [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Curmudgen]

Having seen the LifeAlert adds on TV, its damn lucky that name passed.

After failed raids, does everyone /shout Help we Failed and we cant get back up!

[New England Patriots]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

don't have*

DAMN YOU NO EDIT BUTTON!! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLL!!!!

dont be so fucking stupid then you stupid FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ezalor]

Originally Posted by Dominick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point that is if an executive who can prevent a crime, does nothing with knowledge a crime is occurring, then they are culpable morally if not legally.

That's an entirely different argument than you presented before. Now you're talking about to what extent a state's figurehead should be held liable, legally or morally, for the misconduct of a government-contracted private mercenary force.

I'm talking about your previous post, where you stated that allegations of misconduct against Blackwater are necessarily false, precisely because Blackwater has yet to be held liable for any misconduct by the United States government's executive branch.

Simplified, this is the "___ never happened, because ____ would have punished them for it" argument.

According to this theory, insider trading and stock fraud never occured.. The SEC would've shut them down!

Contaminated food products are never hit the shelves of grocery stores, the USDA would've shut them down!

Are you seriously that daft? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bubbles]

Wow this got de-railed into, like, the most boring thread ever.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by taxi2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love how loke presents the alternatives.

Would you like a private firm of mercenaries known for their trigger fingers in Iraq or would you like to see soldiers in the streets?

How about a civilian response team, trained for disasters like this, is that like so far-fetched and socialist for your mind?

I'm confused by your post. I totally agree that civilian response teams, trained for disasters like that, were definitely what was needed down there. That wasn't what happened though. I get the sense you're claiming I'm some sort of right wing radical who thinks humanitarian efforts in disaster zones are in some way "socialist" - which is just way off base.. and I think you're probably the only person who got that from my posts.

I was simply stating a private security firm being used to assist in a nation disaster is much less astounding than the fact that the Marines were deployed inside the United States.