Really Getsome and IB ?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn you seem really mad today. I'm sorry I wasn't aware you pulled that many strings these days in the guild. TMO should reign you in though you're not doing them any favors with that hostility.

I pull more strings than you ever did. You were useless, they knew it and had an easy time coming to the decision to remove you. They dont need to "reign me in" because I know and they know youre a non-factor now and always have been.

GL in Doljo bro.

[Corro]

Has a dragon been kited ?

5 mins of draggong fayd sounds like kiting to me..

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But to answer your question. Your players in your guild knew why IB was engaging that mob. How did your officers not know if their was no communication beforehand ? Seems kinda odd that your indians knew and your chiefs didn't. You won't convince anyone of that either btw. Yes you made poor decisions in regards to the loot. Because you yourself say you knew enough to have your pullers clear their aggro. You knew there was no question about that mob at that point and saw loot and was like "Ok lets play politics with IB".

last response bc its obviously getting no where

All we knew in regards to Faydedar was that Taken did not win the mob period. We did not get the mob to shout one of our tracker's name, so its common sense to not kill that mob.

What we did not know was being handed a piece of loot that seemed to be 'unclaimed' as there were unresolved petitions from BOTH IB and TMO for who's mob that was would entrap us into some kind of convoluted 'joint' raid with IB that really did not exist.

We knew both parties petitioned, and we knew the GMs would sort it out. It felt harmless to provide them logs because to a point we did agree with them. It was shady and kind of BS what you guys did, but now that more information and DEV responses about the situation have come to light it makes for a much clearer precedent with how to move forward when situations like this arise.

I am sorry this rabbit hole does not go down very deep.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I pull more strings than you ever did. You were useless, they knew it and had an easy time coming to the decision to remove you. They dont need to "reign me in" because I know and they know youre a non-factor now and always have been.

GL in Doljo bro.

Well obviously everyone is a non-factor. A warrior doesn't really do much dude, get over yourself. You're just as replaceable as anyone, you're just 2-3 years behind me in time elapsed on P99, you'll get there too. They're a machine, nothing more or less, people are what make a guild special not pure skill bots.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think Detoxx is just happy all the useless people like Zeelot, DD, Loly, Eccezan, faz, olidaen, tortue, me, zilo, sworen, tegellan etc. are gone and out of the way so his elite crew can take over. And now its clear and easy for him to collect those PD items too.

(psst. there will be more soon)

Rofl you must be joking to even consider yourself part of that list. Youve done nothing since ive been in tmo.

"Fountree was a big part of thr dominance TMO had from 2011- 2014..." said no one ever

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Corro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

5 mins of draggong fayd sounds like kiting to me..

Well, you obviously don't know the engage rules. Fay is the longest pull, other outdoor dragons can be pulled to engage spots as well. It has to be in a (mostly) strait line to your raid force. Taking detours to add time counts as a kite, running in a strait line to your raid force counts as a pull. Get it? (probably not)

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Corro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gotcha that makes sense, but is the same for other mobs like Sev? Meaning that 5 minute window that is ok for Fayd can fly for the other dragons?

All mobs (with the exception of non-raid campable mobs) operate under the FTE mechanic. The FTE shouts are simply there for convenience to provide indisputable proof of who achieved FTE. Raid mobs cannot be kited, but they can be pulled, in a reasonably direct line, to a specific camp/kill spot. In the case of Sev, raids generally set up at the TT zone line. Because the pull must be reasonably direct to a given camp, the time allowed before a pull becomes a kite can vary. Gorenaire and Sev tend to be faster pulls due to where most raids kill them, so a 5 minute Gore pull is probably a stall. Faydedar, however, is almost universally killed on ogre island, so the pull often takes 7 or 8 minutes.

Raid mobs can also be pulled if no raid is present in the zone provided that 1) a raid is making a good faith effort at assembling, and 2) the puller immediately takes it to the designated camp. This is what leads to the "dragon rush" as guilds delay achieving FTE as long as possible until they're certain they can assemble in time.

[Corro]

Gotcha, thanks for clearing that up. I was just curious how this whole ordeal went down.

[Ravager]

I think Fay would be more fun fought in the middle of the ocean.

[Cecily]

Think we could pull it into the firepots?