Raid Suspension: Azure Guard

[Funkutron5000]

I just want to say Kudos to AG for taking this with grace. It's rare that a guild gets slapped (with a pretty lame suspension, IMHO) and takes it on the chin without bitching. Tip of the cap, boys and girls. It's also pretty cool to see the Class R guilds rally around and try to fight it. The cooperation between you all is both respectable and admirable.

But, like Sirks and Deru said, if the rules are there for a reason and if they don't enforce them, the whole thing falls apart rather quickly.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just want to say Kudos to AG for taking this with grace. It's rare that a guild gets slapped (with a pretty lame suspension, IMHO) and takes it on the chin without bitching. Tip of the cap, boys and girls. It's also pretty cool to see the Class R guilds rally around and try to fight it. The cooperation between you all is both respectable and admirable.

But, like Sirks and Deru said, if the rules are there for a reason and if they don't enforce them, the whole thing falls apart rather quickly.

Well technically their logic is flawed. It's a slippery slope fallacy. No one disagreed that a rule was broken, what I'm arguing is that mitigating circumstances need to be taken into account. Everyone seems to agree that it's a pretty poor use of the disciplinary system considering the factors involved. A-Team was briefly suspended and the mitigating circumstances were used to waive the suspension.

Common sense needs to be the barometer here. Intent means something. The black and white letter of the law shit needs to stop. Black and white is fine for settling FTE disputes but this is an entirely different situation. The intent wasn't malicious and the system in place to determine lockouts was down. Yes, Rogean said "know if you're locked out" but outside of the raid policy page what means did AG have of determining their ability to engage Trak? They could have asked a staff member but with something that time sensitive it seems unlikely that a response would have been received in time.