petition to keep map software off red99

[Vile]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was just about to roll Red until I saw this. Now I'm too offended.

God isn't it terrible when people who don't play on your server come in to your server's chat and try to force an ill-planned agenda? /boggle.

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[MC Epic]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God isn't it terrible when people who don't play on your server come in to your server's chat and try to force an ill-planned agenda? /boggle.

Yup, you should try playing here for a year, and THEN feel free to come to server chat and attempt to force an ill-planned agenda.

See you then!

(no hard feelings towards the ignorants - feel free to /tell mesochrist if you need any newbie starting weapon).

EDIT: ^^ As long as you commit to not use 3rd party programs! Otherwise, I have no interest to help you.

[Frug]

Originally Posted by Vile [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean it won't help that much.. on red your better off not using it, unless there is a way not to share your loc globally...

There is a way to not share your loc globally. Basically, do NOTHING AT ALL, since your loc isn't shared globally.

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Frug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is a way to not share your loc globally. Basically, do NOTHING AT ALL, since your loc isn't shared globally.

That's what I amm saying.. people are thinking this is going to be some global map of everyone on the server.. whether they're running the app or not...

[Silent]

Yeah because lets all compare ShowEQ to a simple VB program, I don't see pc/npc names, hp, levels, designations on this do you?

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This simply parses a log file to look for a string for location(requires /log enabled, and you to keep using /loc in game to update your location) which then shows you on EQ-made maps where you are via a square color in relation to the zone. It doesn't inject into memory nor is it considered hacking. The GM's gave the greenlight that it was safe to use and would not be considered a hack long ago. This has been around for nearly a year, And honestly I don't even use it anymore because it was intended to help people who do not know their way around certain zones.

Chewie and anyone else who thinks this is 'hacking' is just plain stupid, it was created to help players find their way around nothing more. Once they learn how to get through a zone enough times they do not need it anymore.

Clearly this below is NOT legit amirite

Originally Posted by Chronoburn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

classic ..

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[Agatha]

push whistle so dirty. fuck sniffin packets, u can get everything u need from ingame.

[LulzSect]

maps are for vaginas

[MC Epic]

Originally Posted by Silent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This simply parses a log file to look for a string for location(requires /log enabled, and you to keep using /loc in game to update your location) which then shows you on EQ-made maps where you are via a square color in relation to the zone. It doesn't inject into memory nor is it considered hacking. The GM's gave the greenlight that it was safe to use and would not be considered a hack long ago. This has been around for nearly a year, And honestly I don't even use it anymore because it was intended to help people who do not know their way around certain zones.

Chewie and anyone else who thinks this is 'hacking' is just plain stupid, it was created to help players find their way around nothing more. Once they learn how to get through a zone enough times they do not need it anymore.

This is plainly and clearly a Third Party Program being used to gain an unintended advantage of birds-eye vision of yourself on a map with live location update.

This is also plainly and clearly a violation of the spirit of server rules.

I've already explained how this is an artificial advantage (especially on Red server where it directly affects competitive game-play).

I strongly urge staff to make an declaration condemning the use of third party mapping programs.

Quoted from Rogean:

Third Party Tools, Exploiting
We do not tolerate cheating on Project 1999. Any program that provides an unintended advantage or gleams access to information not otherwise available is very strictly prohibited.

This program does both:
Provides an unintended advantage to players who are using this to circumvent a feature removal, AND gleams access to information not otherwise available (live updated 100% accurate map location at-a-glance).

If you can't see this is a clear violation of that ruleset, you fail. It doesn't not matter the method in which you hack the system, it's still a hack.
Additionally, the possibilities of this hack go beyond simply seeing yourself on the map; the backbone of this program is already in a format to incorporate more advanced functionality.

SET A PRECIDENT:
Players, Guides and GM's : Say "No" to third party programs.

[Aussie]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=68

[Nirgon]

I have a map that I draw a line across with a pencil as I traverse the zones.

Is this legal? I am using a number 2 pencil (classic as fuck).