Saraya - level 53 unguilded enchanter - Ninja Looter

[tekniq]

In THEORY: Saraya was Wrong,
TECHNICALLY SPEAKING: she didn't do anything wrong.

whichever side you feel an affinity to, goes your opinion.

[Shamalam]

Stealing is bad, mmmkay

[Confit]

There's only two ways to ninja loot something:

1. Being in the group that got the exp and looting it before others in said group.

and

2. Waiting for the corpse to go public and looting it before all others can.

The item belongs to whoever got the exp unless it was blatant kill stealing i.e. two able parties are there and the party that did not get FTE gets the exp. In my opinion, unless a group of able bodied people were all there camping it together, the mob goes to whoever is able to mobilize and get the kill first.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by tekniq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TECHNICALLY SPEAKING: she didn't do anything wrong.

I know I've read staff saying that looting items off a corpse that doesn't belong to you is ninja looting. And they've enforced it many times in raid situations, I'm rather certain.

[arsenalpow]

It's definitely against the rules and Saraya was punished accordingly. I'd post Derub's petition responses if it were allowed.

[Tecmos Deception]

Surprised that so few people (and not just random noobs, but people who have been around forever and are in the bigger guilds) know the rules here on ninjaing.

[TotallyLegit]

Originally Posted by Wrench [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

some of these threads you can just wait long enough and chest will answer his own rhetoricals

+1

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

already petitioned, this is just extra curricular

Public service announcement.

[Grubbz]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surprised that so few people (and not just random noobs, but people who have been around forever and are in the bigger guilds) know the rules here on ninjaing.

That is the problem tho, P99 has a different rule set then everquest had in 1999.

Shits not classic.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Zalora [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where does it say that ninja looting entails taking an item after looting rights from the corpse goes public? That sounds like whoever killed the mob is allowing the item to rot.

Yeah except it never went public: the items on the corpse belonged to BDA until the corpse disapeared.

If after the kill BDA simply ported out of Neriak, leaving it there abandoned, then yes in that case it would have been fine to loot.

But they were all standing there, around it, and Saraya happened to be the one getting it .01s after it unlocked by spam clicking.

The fact that you can't clearly see it's ninja-looting is mind-boggling.