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Old 04-20-2014, 08:10 PM
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AC/SoS is better dps at lvl60. However, leveling up 2hb can be better dps at times. I was always under the impression that 2hb was better for not wanting to take agro because the dmg was slower. I believe hate is based on number of swings and not how much dmg is being done. I could be wrong but I think that's they way its done.

There is a link to a chart that was made with all the monk weapons and dps for lvl60. Epic fist with sos offhand is best dps for a monk at lvl60... I cant find the link but if/when I do ill post it here as well.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:14 PM
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Thing with IFS is you'll do more dps but it can be somewhat inconsistent. Some fights you'll waste mobs and others you'll miss a few times and think "wtf is going on what's taking so long."
This math is true until you get a nice set of raid buffs. Once delay is minimized and accuracy increased resulting from buffs and debuffs, the effects level out in a shorter period of time. I think that 2hb tends to perform a little better in those circumstances. I do not have evidence to support that claim though.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:16 PM
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AC/SoS is better dps at lvl60. However, leveling up 2hb can be better dps at times. I was always under the impression that 2hb was better for not wanting to take agro because the dmg was slower. I believe hate is based on number of swings and not how much dmg is being done. I could be wrong but I think that's they way its done.

There is a link to a chart that was made with all the monk weapons and dps for lvl60. Epic fist with sos offhand is best dps for a monk at lvl60... I cant find the link but if/when I do ill post it here as well.
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:29 AM
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Yes that thread. The point is that its based on ratios so with or without buffs and haste the weapon highest dps weapons on that chart will always out dps the others because of ratio at lvl60. Now the only problem is when you have thing like low dual wield skill level or low double attack skill level, and Dmg caps due to level etc.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:52 AM
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At 60 (without Velious weapons or a few Kunark raid weapons) you go T-Staff or Epic/SoS. That's been a known quantity since forever and those are all achievable without any need to consider other combos. The chart is completely unneeded in that regard.

What I want to know is are the formulas correct? Those are the ones that I recall from live and also from other sources, but are they accurate.

The useful info would be formulas or charts to help you know what to do on your way from 30 to 60. And its there -- but only if the formulas are correct.

Look at Baalzy's post above. His formulas are different. Which are right?
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Old 04-21-2014, 04:21 PM
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baalzy is ignoring strength modifier, dual wield %, skill level.

i have no proof that the spread sheet is 100% accurate.. but it is pretty damn close. The only thing it doesn't factor in is the AC and relative level of your opponent. That would be a difficult task.
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Old 04-22-2014, 10:17 AM
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I strongly recommend AC/SoS, they're very similar in parse iirc, and at least on my monk I needed quick burst damage over 3-5 seconds and then to run out to pull again. I felt that T-staff on my monk didn't compare too well to AC/sos for monk leveling in a group.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:53 PM
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Default was going to ask same question

i am 28. Not as worried about weight as much as the OP. Money IS an object. I can prob scrape together 9k. I use WQS and have trance stick and knuckle dusters in the bank. I DO NOT have a haste item and my other gear is wu's or greater, but nothing high end. I am not in a guild atm so I do not plan on ever looting planar gear or better.(not saying it wont happen, just not planning on it) Should I spend my money on a new weapon(s), save more and buy haste item, or other?

thanks for any help.
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Old 04-22-2014, 12:54 PM
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Haste, IMO.
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Old 04-22-2014, 07:11 PM
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Haste will give you the biggest single increase at your level if you can afford it.

Your wqs goes from being a 23/28 to a 23/23 weapon just with FBSS and raises the effective value of all your other weapons. Giving it a better ratio than a 30+k RFS
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