The Reptilian RL Iksar Thread!

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea, binary logical system says you can do that. not denying that it can be manipulated. denying that it was created by a supranatural being.

Actually what you said was that computer code is not comparable to organic chemistry. Well there must be much more of a connection than you assume if computer code of.any kind can be stored in organic material. And if said code, even if it is now viewed as 'simplistic' can be coded into DNA by highly skilled scientists, then how did the much more complex information code that is DNA come to be?

[valarmorghulis]

also, your attribution of dna being a language is merely a valuated metaphor used in order to help describe how dna works in layman's terms. the language used when talking about dna doesn't prove that it was created. the chemicals were labeled by humans in human made laboratories. they didn't look at it and it was all nicely labeled for them in whichever language they spoke. and why haven't you tried to counter my claim of the a priori model not allowing for the existence of god?

You're an idiot. That's like saying hieroglyphs aren't a language because it wasn't all nicely labeled for the people who discovered it in the language that they spoke. No shit it isn't labeled you complete retard. It first has to be deciphered and then translated.

As for countering your claim of the a priori model not allowing for the existence of God, there's really no need to. If the model doesn't allow for God then the model is simply incorrect. Some arbitrary man made model has no relevance or bearing on reality.

Also LOL at that retarded article you linked that destroyed it's own argument and provides evidence for the existence of God in the very 2nd sentence.

The invention of DNA

It claims DNA was invented. Therefor it requires an inventor. Game. Set. Match. Thanks for playing.

[r00t]

If we apply concepts from physics (laws) to biology (theories), DNA creating itself is a violation of systems going to maximum entropy.

I'm on the same page as Bill Gates, the concept of DNA and my background in programming led me to believe there was a creator. DNA is a 2-bit represented binary system, it is literally the same thing as compiled computer code with opcodes (primers) and modules (chromosomes). I've actually written software to deal with DNA in that sense (https://code.google.com/p/dnaprimers/). Structured, ordered information does not spontaneously generate itself, going back to philosophy and the monkey typewriter thing.

Existence existing is proof enough of a supernatural architect.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we apply concepts from physics (laws) to biology (theories), DNA creating itself is a violation of systems going to maximum entropy. I'm on the same page as Bill Gates, the concept of DNA and my background in programming led me to believe there was a creator.

Nah. Only dumb people believe in creation. Or so I have been repeatedly told.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're an idiot. That's like saying hieroglyphs aren't a language because it wasn't all nicely labeled for the people who discovered it in the language that they spoke. No shit it isn't labeled you complete retard. It first has to be deciphered and then translated.

thank you for proving my point. dna had to be labelled and deciphered by humans with a human system.

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for countering your claim of the a priori model not allowing for the existence of God, there's really no need to. If the model doesn't allow for God then the model is simply incorrect. Some arbitrary man made model has no relevance or bearing on reality.

everything you're using is man made so why are you using it? you've factored out the possibility that god can't exist or has not ever existed (cogito ergo sum on your end so read up some heidegger) and when that possibility is put on the table you've ignored it. you're using logical systems that don't support your own claims or beliefs.

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also LOL at that retarded article you linked that destroyed it's own argument and provides evidence for the existence of God in the very 2nd sentence.

It claims DNA was invented. Therefor it requires an inventor. Game. Set. Match. Thanks for playing.

so you pick out the one thing in the summary of the study (the inroduction) that seems to agree with your weltanschauung while ignoring the following sentences thus taking it out of context. your troll is tired, let it sleep.

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually what you said was that computer code is not comparable to organic chemistry. Well there must be much more of a connection than you assume if computer code of.any kind can be stored in organic material. And if said code, even if it is now viewed as 'simplistic' can be coded into DNA by highly skilled scientists, then how did the much more complex information code that is DNA come to be?

computer code is computer code. if your encoding information on dna then you're using organic methods and not strictly computer code. comparing coding eq to the creation of dna is absurd.

[Scrooge]

What's absurd is how you keep going back and forth between your own limitations of understanding of varying perceptions. Let it be!

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Scrooge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's absurd is how you keep going back and forth between your own limitations of understanding of varying perceptions. Let it be!

says the guy who wants an echo chamber of communication.

[Rhambuk]

IIT:

Men evolved form apes VS Men evolved from reptiles

Place you're bets!

[Glenzig]

Here is a link to a report on how they are able to use DNA as a storage device and code it.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...orage/1858801/

[r00t]

coding EQ is actually less complicated than DNA. 6,000,000,000 'rungs' of DNA for a human is roughly 750,000,000 lines of assembly code by my math and science

6bill * 2 (rung = 2) / 16 (AGTC is 2-bit binary system, comparing to 32 bit instruction set)