The Reptilian RL Iksar Thread!

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i've never seen god or seen a measurement of god so god can't exist.

I have never seen wind. Therefore wind does not exist.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by r00t [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

macroevolution, which is what we're really talking about when we have an evolution debate, has not been observed (well, maybe I'll give you ligers and such, although you could argue its still a tigris breed). But bacteria turning into more bacteria is not proof of anything, nor is the magnitude of gaps in the fossil record. It's the most speculative field of science outside of genesis and abiogenesis. If you actually do have concrete evidence I'm sure you would win a Nobel prize.

At any rate, the world is run by people who they themselves believe they are reptiles. It doesn't matter if they are or not, because either way is bad news. The hidden cults and secret societies of the elite, if you delve into the subject matter, are fascinating and scary.

Very well said my friend. Very well said.

[Azure]

Yet - I would like to bring up again. The interesting part of the bacterial experiments were that the changes were not random. This has huge implications.

One would expect the bacteria to fairly randomly mutate into failed strains or successful strains or strains that did something entirely else.

This didn't happen. It's like in most cases (I think it was far over 70% of the time) the bacteria changed to adapt vs die. This was more than simple natural selection taking place as well as described by the article.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Azure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet - I would like to bring up again. The interesting part of the bacterial experiments were that the changes were not random. This has huge implications.

One would expect the bacteria to fairly randomly mutate into failed strains or successful strains or strains that did something entirely else.

This didn't happen. It's like in most cases (I think it was far over 70% of the time) the bacteria changed to adapt vs die. This was more than simple natural selection taking place as well as described by the article.

So all the bacteria reacted the same way? Almost like that's the way they were designed to react?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DNA is undeniable evidence of God actually. It contains a language which conveys an ultra complex code that contains the blueprints and instructions for how to formulate and build every single living organism that exists. Since a language and information can only arise from an intelligent source, the creator of DNA is the creator of life and is therefor God.

deoxyribose nucleic acid can come about because of chemical reactions, and over a good bit of time (proly much greater than our perceptions) have the components that are dna arranged to react in such a way that chemistry can explain. there is not one bit of evidence that dictates that a complex strand of chemicals had to be designed and implemented into what we call life. your logic is, essentially, dna is complex, complex things can't come about without being designed by an intelligent source, therefore god exists because dna is complex. that's a poor syllogism.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have never seen wind. Therefore wind does not exist.

you've observed the effects of the wind which can be directly tied to air currents generating from cold and warm air masses which can be observed and measured. you also missed the "b" part of your syllogism

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

deoxyribose nucleic acid can come about because of chemical reactions, and over a good bit of time (proly much greater than our perceptions) have the components that are dna arranged to react in such a way that chemistry can explain. there is not one bit of evidence that dictates that a complex strand of chemicals had to be designed and implemented into what we call life. your logic is, essentially, dna is complex, complex things can't come about without being designed by an intelligent source, therefore god exists because dna is complex. that's a poor syllogism.

So what you're saying is that its fairly simple for DNA to spontaneously form?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So all the bacteria reacted the same way? Almost like that's the way they were designed to react?

Or programmed. But there are self programming systems am I right? No creator necessary. Bacteria may be more advanced than we think in that their capable of storing some kind of information and passing it a long. Or it could be something else entirely.

It's just cool a fuck and people like to blame a god way to much.

What if most life is like this and couple that with panspermia - you have quick evolution to fill many niches if a bit of bacteria from somewhere else travels the vast distance across space to land on a dead but livable planet?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you've observed the effects of the wind which can be directly tied to air currents generating from cold and warm air masses which can be observed and measured. you also missed the "b" part of your syllogism

Or you could deny that wind exists because you can't see wind. Just sayin.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So what you're saying is that its fairly simple for DNA to spontaneously form?

yes via a natural process. a peptide that began to self-replicate and eventually mutated on its own. much like how rna messing up dna replication by not perfectly copying the dna strand and passing on the "error" copy that becomes the new cell is a huge driving factor in evolution.

randomness is fun to some, but no to some too