The Reptilian RL Iksar Thread!

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also you're contradicting your own conspiracy theories

Contradictions are the hallmark of all good conspiracy theories.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Contradictions are the hallmark of all good conspiracy theories.

Meh, not necessarily, just the bad ones.

You basically have two categories of conspiracy theories:

Type A "conspiracy theories" contain lots of evidence. They're difficult if not impossible to prove or disprove. You could consider stuff like believing the Earth revolves around the sun as a ye olde example of this, I guess.

Type B conspiracy theories are like this one. They have shady evidence and contradictory information. They're generally the ones purported by the kind of people who think black helicopters are following them around everywhere (like the one video Scrooge posted).

Unfortunately these are often lumped together.

I enjoy learning about the Type A theories. I'm a big fan of stuff like Art Bell.

[valarmorghulis]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus Christ you creationists really love trying to use science to make your point. Too bad you're so terribly bad at it.

You atheists really love trying to use ad hominem attacks to make your point. Too bad that it's all you're capable of doing because you don't have any actual logical arguments and don't actually grasp science at all.

[valarmorghulis]

Originally Posted by phacemeltar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

please scientifically explain how this "creator" came to be?

God didn't "come to be". God has always been and always will be. He is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end. God cannot be scientifically explained because he does exist within the realms of science. God created the Universe and is not subject to it's laws and regulations as he is the one who created them. This is why he is able to overrule natural laws at will such as the creation of life, which without God would be otherwise impossible.

[moklianne]

Scientists are all like "We may not know everything about the universe, but we are trying to not make assumptions based on what we want to be true" - The actual scientists that is. Not the pseudo scientists.

Creationists/Intelligent Designers are all like "It must be this way because it was handed down to us over the course of thousands of years from human beings that didn't understand how the natural world around them worked."

It could very well be that a being similar to a god will be proven by scientific theory in the future. Just because it can't now, doesn't mean that science is invalid as a whole.

[valarmorghulis]

Creationists/Intelligent Designers are all like "It must be this way because it was handed down to us over the course of thousands of years from human beings that didn't understand how the natural world around them worked."

Not quite. Creationists/ID's are actually the greatest scientists and inventors that ever walked the Earth.

“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.”― Isaac Newton

“This most beautiful system of the sun, planets and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.”
― Isaac Newton, The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy

“He who thinks half-heartedly will not believe in God; but he who really thinks has to believe in God.”
― Isaac Newton

“Blind metaphysical necessity, which is certainly the same always and every where, could produce no variety of things. All that diversity of natural things which we find suited to different times and places could arise from nothing but the ideas and will of a Being, necessarily existing.”
― Isaac Newton, The Principia: Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy

Isaac Newton isn't just your average scientist but rather is one of the greatest to ever walk the Earth. There simply is no assumption necessary to believe in creation and intelligent design. It is a simple obvious fact that isn't even up for debate. Everything around you is evidence of this fact. Do you drive a car? Well guess what, that car didn't always exist and it has a creator. Using a computer? It didn't always exist and it has a creator. Sitting in a chair? It didn't always exist and someone created it. Do you live on planet Earth? Guess what, it didn't always exist either, therefor someone had to create it. This is as basic as logic can possibly get. If you can't grasp this simple fact of life then you're simply delusional.

[Azure]

I make earths in my spare time. Though they are far less complex than this one and only exist as electronic data points or random scribles in a notebook if I'm feeling really primitive.

P.S. I'm not a god, I'm a goddess.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not quite. Creationists/ID's are actually the greatest scientists and inventors that ever walked the Earth.
Isaac Newton isn't just your average scientist but rather is one of the greatest to ever walk the Earth. There simply is no assumption necessary to believe in creation and intelligent design. It is a simple obvious fact that isn't even up for debate. Everything around you is evidence of this fact. Do you drive a car? Well guess what, that car didn't always exist and it has a creator. Using a computer? It didn't always exist and it has a creator. Sitting in a chair? It didn't always exist and someone created it. Do you live on planet Earth? Guess what, it didn't always exist either, therefor someone had to create it. This is as basic as logic can possibly get. If you can't grasp this simple fact of life then you're simply delusional.

Now you are just being ridiculous. How can you compare organic life with inanimate objects? Your trolling is no longer believable. Nice try.

Isaac newton was also a shut-in that probably showed the same behavior of Sheldon on "The Big Bang Theory". No individual is 100% correct in everything they do or say. Just look back at some of the other famous figures in history.

There are also plenty of other scientists who believe in god or gods. Everyone has their own way of coping with the currently unexplained. Or, they get an immense joy out of it, that is fine. To say that there is definitely a god that needed to create everything though? No... Again, just because we don't know the triggers doesn't mean that it *must* be an immortal being with magic powers that did it. And for the record, I am far from an atheist or even agnostic.

[moklianne]

Originally Posted by Azure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I make earths in my spare time. Though they are far less complex than this one and only exist as electronic data points or random scribles in a notebook if I'm feeling really primitive.

P.S. I'm not a god, I'm a goddess.

I suppose you could say that climate models are worlds upon themselves. Some are very complex systems.

[Scrooge]

Instead of going back and forth between everything I post here, trying to discredit what you see with your own eyes, try actually watching the videos in this thread before you start jumping to conclusions.

As to why I mentioned the Amy Knights out of PoFear, it's because they very closely resemble "The Thule" which live underground (those things have tentacle-like things coming from where their mouth should be, thats why I compared them to the Amy Knights in the first place.)

Lookup "Thule Society," which the Nazis were participants of, even before WW2. Also look up "The Vril," which aided the Nazis in building their own anti-gravity saucer-style craft.