Scammed by Zebaki in Tunnel

[Numbers_]

Originally Posted by Halius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with you in the fact that taking your stuff was wrong, assuming this person was following you with the intent of taking items after you dropped them. However, technically, he didn't "steal" the items because you willingly left them out in an open area. If you compare that to RL, that is like if you went to the park, dropped $100 on the ground with the intent of coming back in say 5 minutes to pick it up. If someone should happen upon that $100 dollars and take it, do you blame them or yourself for leaving $100 on the ground?

Stealing is when someone takes something from you that you have personal possession of. Such as taking something from your house. Your house is your personal property and thus everything in it is your property so they would be "Stealing." It was more like you, metaphorically speaking, took the stuff out of your house, set the stuff out in the grass at a public park, and then got mad when the stuff was later gone.

Anyways all that said, I don't agree with what he did especially if he was following you with the intent of getting free items. However, it was your choice to drop stuff. Sorry you lost that stuff man and I hope you get it back. I do drops transfers all the time (here and back on Live) and have never lost an item, just gotta find the lowest foot traffic areas possible and make a check around you for other players before dropping.

Thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I think the difference here is that he saw me drop it. He had to have been right on my heels, which does make it stealing from a moral perspective. I agree that if you found money on the ground that would not be stealing. However, if you saw someone drop it it sure would be (from a moral standpoint, not sure what the law says, but lying isn't against the law either). There isn't really any real life equivalent to having to transfer items to yourself by dropping them on the ground, so the alternate version of yourself can pick it up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway, I learned my lesson. Next time I'll use someone like Bongs or a Divinity member (which was graciously offered to me in this thread) to transfer my stuff.

[Halius]

Originally Posted by Numbers_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I think the difference here is that he saw me drop it. He had to have been right on my heels, which does make it stealing from a moral perspective. I agree that if you found money on the ground that would not be stealing. However, if you saw someone drop it it sure would be (from a moral standpoint, not sure what the law says, but lying isn't against the law either). There isn't really any real life equivalent to having to transfer items to yourself by dropping them on the ground, so the alternate version of yourself can pick it up [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway, I learned my lesson. Next time I'll use someone like Bongs or a Divinity member (which was graciously offered to me in this thread) to transfer my stuff.

Yeah I get it, that's why I don't agree with what he did either. If I was a higher level I'd help ya out with some pp, but unfortunately I level at an incredibly casual pace nowadays. Good lucks with your items [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Numbers_]

Originally Posted by Halius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I get it, that's why I don't agree with what he did either. If I was a higher level I'd help ya out with some pp, but unfortunately I level at an incredibly casual pace nowadays. Good lucks with your items [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks, if I see you around i'll toss ya a clarity [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Wudan]

OP did you get your stuff back?

[Yonkec]

Originally Posted by I Tell The Truth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please sign my petition to to get Ryanj and Meggetter IP Banned from the game servers and from the Project 1999 game server.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...81#post1413781

Seriously? Grow up, welcome to the thing called life. You can't petition your way to world peace.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Yonkec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously? Grow up, welcome to the thing called life. You can't petition your way to world peace.

I hope you do a transfer for Ryanj and get flagged for RMT.

[Yonkec]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you do a transfer for Ryanj and get flagged for RMT.

I love you too! Once you turn 16 we should totally go on a non platonic date.

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by I Tell The Truth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please sign my petition to to get Ryanj and Meggetter IP Banned from the game servers and from the Project 1999 game server.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...81#post1413781

People don't like being told what to do. Our gm's are amongst that group. If you want this result the path you're taking isn't helping you obtain it.

[Shamen]

Just wanted to let everyone know about my experience with Zebaki.

He ordered set of Dreadscale from me couple days before this thread was posted. He occasionaly asked if I have the set in following week so I focused on finishing the orded as he seemed to be really excited about getting it for his SK.

After I read this thread I asked him about what happened. He said he went LD that day and was unable to log back in. He also said he gave all the stuff back to OP the next day, but decided to reroll anyway, because his reputation was ruined.

I finished the Dreadscale set the next day and he started to question the previously agreed price and ended up not buying it.

The guy is a scammer, he did not return the stuff to OP and probably had a plan how to scam me too...

The char he rerolled is called "Camnus" so be carefull...

[kylok]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People don't like being told what to do. Our gm's are amongst that group. If you want this result the path you're taking isn't helping you obtain it.

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn, this sets such a bad example. He was banned like 12 hours before all these dumb 'petition to ban blah blah' threads/posts went up, ban petitions don't actually work.

Goodbye, Ryan and Sean. I tried really hard to give you guys a chance on this server and it was just one clusterfuck after another up until the last minute.

Sometimes dreams do come true.