Nordenwatch's Guide: Rags to Riches

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are quibbling like a bitch. I suspect you are weak. Let me tell you how I know:

It is blatantly obvious that a man who gambles away his wealth is failing to provide for his family.

You don't seem to get that. It says a lot about the boy you are.

I never defended a person who gambled their life savings away. But you can't really call his family victims without completely destroying the meaning of the word "victim". If anyone is a victim simply because they weren't given as much by others as they could/should have been, then pretty much every single person is a victim. And a word that can apply to anyone has zero meaning. Too complex for you to understand? Just get all upset and spout off some more petty insults instead. It's the RnF way after all.

[Nordenwatch]

Originally Posted by casdegere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could make that argument...

Near where I live, people who actually have jobs have to put up with people jaywalking in droves. Sometimes, in the evenings where there are little or no street lights. These people 'look' to get hit and have their lawyer in their contacts list. They sue honest, hard working people and their insurance companies. So yes, either way, someone is getting raped.

no you can't, that's not an argument

[JayN]

no one made 20k off this elf sim, your a moran if you think this! ill just keep repeating this. Since you keep repeating your tired downy shit

[JayN]

no such thing as a white hat they are all grey hats btw, get real

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never defended a person who gambled their life savings away. But you can't really call his family victims without completely destroying the meaning of the word "victim". If anyone is a victim simply because they weren't given as much by others as they could/should have been, then pretty much every single person is a victim. And a word that can apply to anyone has zero meaning. Too complex for you to understand? Just get all upset and spout off some more petty insults instead. It's the RnF way after all.

There is a difference between being a libertarian and abandoning all sense of civic responsibility.

P.S, for all you nuts talking about how RMT is fine, Al Pacino says fuck you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUE4v1rUpSM

[casdegere]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never defended a person who gambled their life savings away. But you can't really call his family victims without completely destroying the meaning of the word "victim". If anyone is a victim simply because they weren't given as much by others as they could/should have been, then pretty much every single person is a victim. And a word that can apply to anyone has zero meaning. Too complex for you to understand? Just get all upset and spout off some more petty insults instead. It's the RnF way after all.

I completely disagree ofcourse. It's not just about who has and who doesn't have. In this instance, this man (or woman) has lied, defiled trust and possibly taken money from his partner, food out of the mouths of his children, threatened the security and well-being of his family due to (insert any number of vices here) To say that his family has not been victimized would be in error.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no one made 20k off this elf sim, your a moran if you think this! ill just keep repeating this. Since you keep repeating your tired downy shit

Thank you for saying this.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never defended a person who gambled their life savings away. But you can't really call his family victims without completely destroying the meaning of the word "victim". If anyone is a victim simply because they weren't given as much by others as they could/should have been, then pretty much every single person is a victim. And a word that can apply to anyone has zero meaning. Too complex for you to understand? Just get all upset and spout off some more petty insults instead. It's the RnF way after all.

It's not that your point is too complex for anyone to understand, it's simply that you're wrong in believing your personal definition of the word victim means anything to anyone other than yourself.

What makes you the final word on who's been hurt enough to qualify as for victimhood? Grow up. The world is bigger than you(although not by much because I can tell you're very fat).

[Derubael]

There's two main victims of RMT on P99.

The first is the RMT'ers themselves, and their integrity and character as a person. When you go to someone's house, you agree to abide by their rules. If you went to your friends house, said 'Don't worry pal, I won't smear shit on your walls' and then smear shit on their walls anyway, you're hurting your integrity as a human being. Similarly, when you come play on Project 1999, you are in Nilbog and Rogean's house, and you've agreed to abide by their rules. When you decide to break those rules, you're not only violating their trust in you as a player, but hurting your character in the process.

In addition to that, you're taking advantage of a free game that Nilbog, Rogean, and the Development Team work hard to provide for you, pouring their own time, money, and resources into maintaining. Instead of spending money on platinum, you could have been donating your money to the server that provides you with a wealth of entertainment and friendships. Every time money is spent on platinum, you're essentially spitting in the face of the people who provide you this free service.

Playing on this server is a privilege, not a right, and we all greatly enjoy being able to help facilitate the use of that privilege. But the moment you take advantage of that, or help someone else take advantage of that (funding people who sell RMT), we're going to remove that privilege because you are insulting the people who gave it to you in the first place.

Arguments could be made that it hurts the economy, or that it cheapens the experience, but that's not the big issue here. If you love classic Everquest, support the people who help you experience that free of charge - not the people making money off of Nilbog and Rogean's generosity, kindness, and love of the game.

The second victim is me, because it takes stupid amounts of time to track all of this down [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. That's CSR time that would be much better spent helping the player-base. So in a way, you're all victims too.

That's my 2pp.
tl;dr Support the project, not the people taking advantage of it. Also don't be a scumbag.

[Orruar]

Is breaking trust really the threshold for victimhood to you people? Maybe I'm wrong here. Maybe you do all see yourselves as victims every time you have your trust broken. I prefer not to view myself as a victim just because someone lied or didn't give me every penny they possibly could have. Sounds like a really sad and depressing life. I mean, I'm sure playing the victim feels good because it absolves you of all responsibility for your situation, but jesus it must make you feel so worthless at the same time.