The Great Red Jailbreak of 2014

[mostbitter]

anyone willing to return backpacks full of items that had been transferred should be unbanned. Plenty easy to trace this stuff with player help. No reason to even set a time line. Just work at it a few minutes a day till it's all done. This info isn't going anywhere, you could take as little time away from whatever to sort through it and fix this mess at your leisure. My friend got banned for this and had no idea what he was doing and I just spent the last two years trying to get him to play here and no he wants to quit.

You guys really need to put some work into red if you want to see red thrive instead of always taking the method of least resistance, imo.

[Loto]

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My friend got banned for this and had no idea what he was doing and I just spent the last two years trying to get him to play here and no he wants to quit.

Sounds like you used your friend to do your dirty work. Maybe he doesn't want to be playing video games with you anymore.

[Zoolander]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So are you saying people who find a dupe exploit, abuse it, and don't report it, should be given an 'amnesty' period where they come clean, simply because there was a mistake in the code?

naw

how many of those tmo platdupers have been permanently banned? 1? 2?

and mind you, there is a difference between duping and transfering items

also, how long does it take to strip a character before banning him for a gm? or delete that character completely since its a permaban anyways

i have mixed feelings about this whole issue but permabans for xfering items is clearly way to hard as punishment

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Zoolander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how many of those tmo platdupers have been permanently banned? 1? 2?

and mind you, there is a difference between duping and transfering items

also, how long does it take to strip a character before banning him for a gm? or delete that character completely since its a permaban anyways

Anyone who duped plat had all of their accounts permabanned, every account they logged in even a single time over the course of 3 years was given a minimum two week suspension, and any account they logged in more than a certain number of times was permabanned.

Based on this criteria, I highly doubt there would be a single person in Nihilum left on the server. But I think it's clear that kind of heavy handed intervention would be inappropriate in this instance.

So let's make more thinly veiled suggestions about how this situation is being handled unfairly, yes? Or would you like to stop making statements on situations you know nothing about?

[Zoolander]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Based on this criteria, I highly doubt there would be a single person in Nihilum left on the server.

ive never duped, trained or been banned. i havent even killed naked players on red.

but yes, iam in nihilum. i hope this doesnt get me banned one day.

[Tradesonred]

Enjoy your bans, toxics

Bonus points for extra toxic pathological liar maximilien's tears

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone who duped plat had all of their accounts permabanned, every account they logged in even a single time over the course of 3 years was given a minimum two week suspension, and any account they logged in more than a certain number of times was permabanned.

Based on this criteria, I highly doubt there would be a single person in Nihilum left on the server. But I think it's clear that kind of heavy handed intervention would be inappropriate in this instance.

So let's make more thinly veiled suggestions about how this situation is being handled unfairly, yes? Or would you like to stop making statements on situations you know nothing about?

Originally Posted by Zoolander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ive never duped, trained or been banned. i havent even killed naked players on red.

but yes, iam in nihilum. i hope this doesnt get me banned one day.

you just got skooliod holmes, dirty whistles all around; pras GMs for finally stepping up

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Drakaris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is stupid. The people posting negative comments about what's being argued have no idea whats going on.

So many people 2 box on a regular basis, which is clearly against the server rules but never get banned.

Accepting an item trade where duping or exploiting isn't involved should not be permabanned. Many of the items traded were not items that were duped in the first place and may in 50% of the cases been items that were on loan for the accounts banned.

The people that reported the issue were also Nihilum because they were not sure if this was intentional or not and thought it was intentional due to the Pledge Drive for Pantheon and also as a precursor to Velious to drive the population back up.

This is why the word 'Entrapment' is being used, maybe whoever is involved and is raising this with the 'whole of staff' is putting a spin on what actually happened. I understand this whole situation took such a long time to track and appreciate the time the staff put in this game.

They got a list of accounts involved. Run a cross query for these accounts with any item transfers that occurred in a window deleting any items of those IDs' from the account. I'm sure the community would be more than happy to help you with those queries if it is going to take too long to figure out how to do this.

Perma banning players over stuff like this is only going to suck players out of the R99 community. Nilly will just recruit new members to replace these players meaning the competition would have less players to compete with. This is the bottom line and reality. Nihilum has the best leadership on this server, which is why it thrives.

Nihilum had the least toxic leadership and zerged, which is why it thrived. At least now theres an alternative with red dawn. Cheerleading on the forums for xp loss in PVP while knowing it allowed Nihilum to stop people from contesting 98% of the time was pretty toxic.

I dont see the problem here. I read the warning about "the staff will figure out if you took items from banned accounts so you better return them", so did you. Please dont make me laugh with plausible deniability claims (about not knowing about this) with Nihi having probably the best intel passed around about whats going on that affects the server.

Again, dont see the problem. People were warned, if a reasonable amount of time was allowed to pass, to let the players the chance to return the items, and you didnt? You cant seriously cry when the ban wasnt effective immediately and had your chance on a silver platter to not get banned.

Good riddance exploiters, IMO.

[dre]

lol, corruption

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Zihm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, you banned the accounts, not the items. Most people, even if they felt they were not supposed to be un-banned, had that distinction in mind.

There's also this silly notion that when you ban someone, you ban the player.

Count your blessings.