A Sickness With No Cure - Page 17

heartbrand · #**161** 02-19-2014, 01:04 PM

I think there's no doubt that had RD+AZ worked together last repop that we would've came close to running the table that particular day. But long term? The loot drama, leadership drama, inter fighting, differing philosophies, etc., etc., would have led to a watershed of members to Nihilum & potentially Az. I would've given that sort of alliance 2 weeks TOPS to last.

Working with the Duke is gr8. May he live 10,000 years.

Faerie · #**162** 02-19-2014, 01:07 PM

It would be smart of Nihilum to keep RD as a sort of non-KoS neutral guild. Reminds me of Defiant on VZ, and the general agreement on the server for all lighty guilds not to attack one another. After players played at the high end for a bit, and if they decided they wanted to try their hand at doing the top-tier content, they were a lot more likely to join the guild they had some PUGs with, and who never killed them; over the big x-team guilds. RD and Nihilum can exist in a benevolent relationship for as long as Nihilum's place as top raid guild isn't threatened. This is especially true in Velious.

vouss · #**163** 02-19-2014, 01:09 PM

Keegan where do you get the idea that we are not happy with,the outcome. We satisfied much pixel lust with a smaller number of people then any other guild is fielding, and have been crushing both RD and Nihi in pvp daily. Its GREAT

heartbrand · #**164** 02-19-2014, 01:13 PM

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It would be smart of Nihilum to keep RD as a sort of non-KoS neutral guild. Reminds me of Defiant on VZ, and the general agreement on the server for all lighty guilds not to attack one another. After players played at the high end for a bit, and if they decided they wanted to try their hand at doing the top-tier content, they were a lot more likely to join the guild they had some PUGs with, and who never killed them; over the big x-team guilds. RD and Nihilum can exist in a benevolent relationship for as long as Nihilum's place as top raid guild isn't threatened. This is especially true in Velious.

A TON of truth and wisdom to this. Let's be real, and my members know this, Red Dawn is not in a position to compete head to head with Nihilum currently. Can we snipe targets w/o pvp? Absolutely. But in terms of going into Karnor's and taking VS from them in mass pvp? It ain't happening right now, and to be honest we're likely months and months away from that. We have a ton of new members we need to focus on, lots of lowbies, lots of people needing gear, etc. While we certainly will rush targets on repop days and what not, and many of our established veteran players will engage in world pvp with Nihilum on the pvp server, when it comes to guild v guild mass pvp, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go toe to toe with the Duke at the moment, and even when we do, we would like to do so in a fun and respectable manner not with the endless ooc shit talk and forum posts and all the other garbage.

Those who want to rush contesting today are only leading to the ultimate downfall of the guild by looking for too much too soon. That's why I basically pushed a few members out the door and told them go to Azrael. If contesting today in mass pvp is your goal, Red Dawn isn't going to be the guild for you. Six months from now? Sure, maybe. But today? No way, doesn't make sense. Now, prior with Azrael merged with us sure that was a possibility. But now that we're on our own, this is the reality, and I have zero issue with it. Thanks!

Agatha · #**165** 02-19-2014, 01:16 PM

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Those who want to rush contesting today are only leading to the ultimate downfall of the guild by looking for too much too soon. That's why I basically pushed a few members out the door and told them go to Azrael. If contesting today in mass pvp is your goal, Red Dawn isn't going to be the guild for you. Six months from now? Sure, maybe. But today? No way, doesn't make sense. Now, prior with Azrael merged with us sure that was a possibility. But now that we're on our own, this is the reality, and I have zero issue with it. Thanks!

i coined lite doing it "slamming the guilds dick in the door".

edit: repeatedly knowing the outcome would be a loss and just sending you all to die. I don't know what his reasoning was.

vouss · #**166** 02-19-2014, 01:18 PM

Agatha you are awful,shut up

The one time I remember Agatha trying to lead us against Nihil, fighting for Trakanon, we got completely destroyed and I have never seen him make any leader like decisions since.

Faerie · #**167** 02-19-2014, 01:19 PM

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A TON of truth and wisdom to this. Let's be real, and my members know this, Red Dawn is not in a position to compete head to head with Nihilum currently. Can we snipe targets w/o pvp? Absolutely. But in terms of going into Karnor's and taking VS from them in mass pvp? It ain't happening right now, and to be honest we're likely months and months away from that. We have a ton of new members we need to focus on, lots of lowbies, lots of people needing gear, etc. While we certainly will rush targets on repop days and what not, and many of our established veteran players will engage in world pvp with Nihilum on the pvp server, when it comes to guild v guild mass pvp, it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to go toe to toe with the Duke at the moment, and even when we do, we would like to do so in a fun and respectable manner not with the endless ooc shit talk and forum posts and all the other garbage.

Those who want to rush contesting today are only leading to the ultimate downfall of the guild by looking for too much too soon. That's why I basically pushed a few members out the door and told them go to Azrael. If contesting today in mass pvp is your goal, Red Dawn isn't going to be the guild for you. Six months from now? Sure, maybe. But today? No way, doesn't make sense. Now, prior with Azrael merged with us sure that was a possibility. But now that we're on our own, this is the reality, and I have zero issue with it. Thanks!

Yeah, it does make a lot more sense for RD to play nice with Nihilum than it does to maintain a decent relationship with Azrael, when it's been nothing but tenuous in the past.

Prediction from an outsider: Azrael fast making themselves a "non-factor".

Agatha · #**168** 02-19-2014, 01:20 PM

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Agatha you are awful,shut up

you were always cool, i hope one day you may see through the wool that lite has tied so tightly over your eyes sir.

vouss · #**169** 02-19-2014, 01:22 PM

0 wool you are just another warm body in a now 70 man zerg and anything you do is far from impressive

Faerie · #**170** 02-19-2014, 01:33 PM

Server would be a lot more fun than it has been if the two top guilds were non-KoS and both raided regularly... with one being more casual and the other being Nihi. Maybe sometimes they could even team up for real, and take on those Velious encounters requiring big numbers.

Call it blue if you will, but if red wants to increase population they really need more blue stuff happening. Raid guild relations are also harder to maintain (and therefore more meaningful) on a red server, too. I've gotta say you make me almost want to join RD, HB. It's a shame you're such a fef :P

Okay, I'm done here for now.