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Old 02-16-2014, 03:04 PM
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Leave a 100% modifier remove all other bonus
Put in grouping exp bonus
Remove hybrid exp penalty
Allow two boxing until 500 pop achieved
Moderate ooc
Blue copies or transfers
AGREE

I don't agree with the punishment sections, because I think they should be suspensions, with warnings, and with dialogue... not just boot to screen without any kind of dialogue. Nobody should be banned for anything unless its something severe.

Also should be consistent and not pick and choose, all the way or not at all.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:05 PM
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And TBH if you want groups to be going in lowby areas allow a 3 month boxing trial, no one plays clerics/enchanters because they want to play PVP effective classes, It's almost like there's a fix to this problem that would allow people to have support classes but not have to main them, this shit almost FIXES ITSELF.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:05 PM
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Yeah, and it's too hard to get a cloak of flames so just put it on the vendor for 1kpp.

If you are too idiotic to understand that easy is not equal to fun then I can certainly understand why you are so frustrated by the 99%.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:07 PM
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same 5 people spam ooc all day. if we could get these cats to a chatroom m4m all would be OK!
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:10 PM
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Yeah, and it's too hard to get a cloak of flames so just put it on the vendor for 1kpp.

If you are too idiotic to understand that easy is not equal to fun then I can certainly understand why you are so frustrated by the 99%.
Yea dawg levelling is so hard this argument always makes me laugh.

BRO I DID THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER FOR 16 HRS LIKE A PRO.

No, you're just a fucking loser retard with no life and either really good drugs or a really boring life.

Faggot.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:18 PM
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:19 PM
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That's like saying running a marathon isn't hard because everyone has done plenty of running in their life.

Trolls aren't supposed to have your level of rage. Which makes me think you actually take this shit seriously, which makes me feel bad for you.

Let's give up this internet war of words and be friends?
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:22 PM
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Hotzones.... The key to fast exp and pvp. Have 3-4 dispersed for levels 1-50 and change them every month.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:23 PM
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I'm for boxing because I believe it would allow smaller crews to flourish, open up the low level scene and increase the abundance of high level groups, and be a huge help in Velious on a low pop server where you REQUIRE double digit clerics for raid mobs. Shrug.
Can you honestly say that the fact that it would greatly benefit you and especially your guild has no bearing on your choice? Do you really want this to help Azrael, Flowers of Happiness and Nihilum members get more groups and be more successful on raids?

What about the brand new player to EQ or those just new to Red? Would having twice the number of pvp threats from the same small population really make the server more inviting? And if the people soloing now to level can suddenly box their own healer, tank or dps how exactly is that going to make them want to group? With a box pets no longer steal 75% xp and dual-boxing will become the new soloing.

I like you HB, you have my respect for what you do, but I already know you're not objective. Last time you and I butted heads over boxing your reasoning was that it would help create groups and since so many IP Exempt people were abusing it to box they should just make dual-boxing legal.
I think the cheaters should all be suspended or banned based on the severity of the crime, because no one boxing is the only way everyone is inherently equal.

Within guilds boxing would be a huge benefit and I would probably argue its merits if I was an officer or leader of a guild, but 200 assholes boxing doesn't add 200 new people to the population, it's just cloning assholes until there are twice as many.

If this were Blue, aka PVE, where it is supposed to be all about grouping and raiding, I would be an advocate for boxing. For at least 16 hours a day, almost every day for the last 18 months people repeated "This is PVP!" while insulting and making fun of others for caring more about PVE than PVP.
Besides me, who on this server hasn't used "smurf" or "bluebie" as derogatory terms to insult either a person or their pvp skills? Yet now being able to group or raid pve targets is one of the primary reasons given for allowing boxing.

Does Sickpuppy boxing a healer with Mrbigs really benefit all the people who come rushing to play here because of boxing?

I am not trying to pick on you in particular HB, you're just one of the loudest proponents for boxing and yet hold a position that makes it virtually impossible for you to be objective or unbiased. I've been in exactly the same position as you and I know that emotions and objectivety DO NOT mix and you cannot be a good guild leader if you are not emotionally invested. To do your job you HAVE to have bias.

I really wish I could just convince you to focus your verbal efforts on getting something done about the people illegal boxing thanks to IP Exemptions being given to people getting them intentionally to box. We need more strict enforcement of the current rules, and definitely more consistent punishments, before we start changing up the rules.
Call me old fashioned but when it says "Boxing will result in a Perma-Ban" in a sticky topic, I believe the fuckers should be perma-banned. No more lifting suspensions and bans early, no more goddamn favortism for anyone.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:43 PM
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I think it helps everyone equally, yes.
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