To all the ppl complaining about Pantheon Pledge Drive

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Harmonicdeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Won't ever happen, the market bares what the market will bare. The masses like the dumbed down version, people on this server are a VERY small minority.

"The masses" aren't needed for a successful MMO. They like fantasy MMOs, but Eve is thriving anyway. A new MMO bucking very far from the current trend just needs to make sure it targets the right audience and doesn't end up abandoning that audience because they think that sucking in some of "the masses" will make them more money.

[Rooj]

Many things in life are ruined by money and popularity eventually, apparently. Remember when music was good? Now everyone and their mother claims "Music is my life!" and plays an instrument and the musician is such a common occupation now, filled by people who just want to get paid. The same thing has happened with video games and especially MMORPGs. Gaming was a lot more fun when there were a lot less games and the people making them were doing it because it was their dream and their passion. Now the industry is full of people just looking to make money regardless of the quality of their product. Gaming has become too mainstream and therefore defiled. Pretty much any game that comes out is going to appeal to as many people as it can - including Pantheon after not enough people show up to support it. You'll have a hard time convincing me that Pantheon won't have exclamation points and question marks above NPC heads with my neatly placed square iconed hotbars at the bottom of my screen with my minimap radar in the top right corner and my quest tracker below it - with quests that lead me into INSTANCES. Boring kill 10 pigs and boars quests and gather 15 apples. Items and equipment literally thrown at you with every step. And let's not forget being able to solo to max level!

What I don't get though is things like XP pots and early access are very modern MMOish, but isn't it things like those that we are trying to avoid by playing here to begin with (and would hope to avoid by playing Pantheon)? I've been here for ~2 years (a bit before Kunark release) but I know some of you have been here even way before that... For as long as many of us have been waiting for Velious as it is, it just kind of feels like a slap in the face from the staff.

[myriverse]

Feh. Music is still good. You're just not looking.

[Striiker]

Funny thing about early Velious access. Sony shipped out free box copies of Velious to all guides. The guides were allowed to access Velious prior to release. Some logged in using their play characters (we were just supposed to get some familiarity for guide activity). So, there were many "normal players" running around with Velious spells, showing stuff off (Like Monster Summoning). I don't know if they got in trouble for that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. Not quite the same however I expect the price gougers to run in to Velious to get stuff and sell Velious spells and drops at inflated costs to those who can't wait a week.

Should be interesting.

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Kluren

Wake up people.

DQ'd.

Originally Posted by myriverse

Feh. Music is still good. You're just not looking.

Gospel truth.

[Man0warr]

Queens of the Stone Age

No song even in the same album sounds the same - Josh Homme is a damn genius.

[whitebandit]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Queens of the Stone Age

No song even in the same album sounds the same - Josh Homme is a damn genius.

i just threw up a little in my mouth..

[loramin]

Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i just threw up a little in my mouth..

Music has and always will be subjective, so it's impossible to (meaningfully) argue that it is better or worse than it was 10, 20, 50 years ago. The only objective argument one could make is that we have access to more music (what with this newfangled Internet thing) than we did 10/20/50 years ago, and that's pretty hard to argue with.

So can we go back to crushing peoples' pipe dreams now?

[hynch]

I don't hate Pantheon or want it to fail. I honestly don't give a crap about it. What I care about is the same GMs that have so adamantly searched for and destroyed any RMT operations are now the ones championing it. Having a server wide XP bonus is one thing but to give people items and access to a new expansion early is pretty lame. If I was to obtain a Fungi and give out raffle tickets for $50 a pop you can bet I would be banned in a hurry, even if the proceeds were going to cancer research.

[Byrjun]

I'm assuming the people blindly supporting Pantheon haven't really kept up with MMOs since EQ released in 1999.

For example, DAOC released in 2001 and I loved it. It's my second favorite MMO behind EQ. When Mythic announced a new MMO that was supposed to be DAOC in the Warhammer universe, I was super excited. And then I got the game and it sucked.

Pantheon looks great, but it could suck. I hope it's everything that everyone says it is, but I don't want to drop any money until I get confirmation that it doesn't suck.