RE: Camping

[Tegellan]

With all the 1018's happening right now while zoning. placing the camp out spot anywhere other then the Zone in might as well be rolling the dice rather then racing.

[Amra]

Crashing always happens...and is part of the race? The reason this thread is here was the close proximity TMO was to fay, and basically there was no competition for that mob. The only way another guild would have gotten fay yesterday was if TMO wiped. They pulled the mob as soon as it spawned, and then logged in their raid force waiting in zone. The first boat got into zone, and fay was already in their camp.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Amra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason this thread is here was the close proximity TMO was to fay, and basically there was no competition for that mob. The only way another guild would have gotten fay yesterday was if TMO wiped. They pulled the mob as soon as it spawned, and then logged in their raid force waiting in zone. The first boat got into zone, and fay was already in their camp.

Fay is always insta pulled. Been that way for years. If you are a guild that wants to kill fay during FFA, you should prepare to pull him when he spawns, your chances are just as good as anyone else's. And there definitely was competition for the mob. TMO puller got the tag but there were other pullers were there.

It is over 18,000 location units from fay's spawn to ogre island. They were definitely not close.

Originally Posted by Amra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crashing always happens...and is part of the race?

Maybe, but I wish it didn't have to be.

[Amra]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fay is always insta pulled. Been that way for years. If you are a guild that wants to kill fay during FFA, you should prepare to pull him when he spawns, your chances are just as good as anyone else's. And there definitely was competition for the mob. TMO puller got the tag but there were other pullers were there.

It is over 18,000 location units from fay's spawn to ogre island. They were definitely not close.



Maybe, but I wish it didn't have to be.

I completely understand this! I am just adding my comment, because we need to know what is considered close. We could easily camped at Ogre island too, but don't want to get banned because we were "too close". I don't understand why the gms won't write up a list of where the "line" is for each mob and what constitutes too close. Obviously everyone wants to get the mob, and we just need to be racing from the same start line. All we are asking is to define the start line.

I personally think the whole no camping here or there thing is kinda stupid, but I'm just working with what we got!

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Amra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I completely understand this! I am just adding my comment, because we need to know what is considered close. We could easily camped at Ogre island too, but don't want to get banned because we were "too close". I don't understand why the gms won't write up a list of where the "line" is for each mob and what constitutes too close. Obviously everyone wants to get the mob, and we just need to be racing from the same start line. All we are asking is to define the start line.

I personally think the whole no camping here or there thing is kinda stupid, but I'm just working with what we got!

Fair enough. For the time being though, let your guild know that ogre island is fine unless otherwise specified by a GM in the near future.

[Amra]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough. For the time being though, let your guild know that ogre island is fine unless otherwise specified by a GM in the near future.

This would be fine if we weren't already banned before for being "too close". We don't want to be the next guinea pig when it comes to figuring out the new raid rules.

[Kope]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just for the sake of argument though. A real concern of mine, personally, is to prevent losing important people who may crash while zoning. I mean, being on one side of the zone line or another is very arbitrary. When I'm logging in for a raid target I'd just much prefer not risking the game crashing if I have some important job to do like pulling a dragon or something. If literally the only difference is whether we have to go through the extra load screen or not, I'd just prefer not to.

Originally Posted by Tegellan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With all the 1018's happening right now while zoning. placing the camp out spot anywhere other then the Zone in might as well be rolling the dice rather then racing.

I totally see where you're both coming from with zonecrashing (trust me, ask anyone that hung around me while I was leveling, I zonecrashed about every 3rd zone).

I'm honestly just concerned about the future and things that happen once tensions rise again of guild vs guild wars. It's going to happen, and when that happens rulelawyers will always come out. I was just trying to fight for the simplest, day and night ruleset, not to push anyone out of content or to give my guild incentive (I think I actually argued against a benefit my guild has) but to get the most simple ruleset possible.