In defense of the Pantheon startup

[Gustoo]

For me the whole point of PVP is the thrill of life and death, and the danger of losing a good piece of equipment and the reward of taking one.

Definitely I don't care about my PVP standing, or anything like that. I play SF4 and really like it and in a game like that it matters who you can just beat 1v1 and its a straight competition between skills and understanding different character mechanics.

An open world game can never be worth PVPing in and "balanced" in the sense that a good fighting game or FPS is. If I want to play a game where I have an honest chance at killing everyone I see, I will play an FPS which I do all the time.

But for a good RPG you need to be able to get fucked over.

Maybe we can convince braid mcwayde to make a pvp server thats just as messed up as everquest is.

[Bazia]

server was so much better with exp loss, people actually cared about dying

[Tassador]

The exp loss wasn't even that bad and exp gains are insane now. Currently Leveling a troll sk faster than I leveled a Druid on release.

[Took]

Yeah exp gains on red compared to blue is stupid.

[Gustoo]

Blue slowness not even classic. Feels extra slow. I agree tho. Item loot better motivator than exp loss tho..motivates people to kill each other while making them want to avoid death to the max.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In regards to PvP, that was actually something we asked about them prior to turning on the stream - it was something we were both really curious about. The answer was both good and bad - they expressed a strong desire to have PvP in the game, but also firmly stated that if they were going to do it, they wanted to do it right, and would need the funding to do so - hence the stretch goal.

I know I'm posting this in an RnF thread, but w/e, someone will read it and know that Visionary Realms is thinking about you guys too.

Not to mention Derubael, most posts here are about allowing boxing, mob variance, getting each other banned and everything else to secure PVE ADVANTAGES.

Then they wanna kick dirt at Brad for wanting to do PvP right and saying well we have a budget and here's what our time will cost to do that.

Even if this game doesn't have PvP right off the bat, it's going to provide more amusement than the next WoW clone. Period.

[Nirgon]

Double post:

You get your PvE rewards (xp pots) potentially FOR FREE if the kick starter doesn't meet its goal.

How have none of you picked up on this?

[RoguePhantom]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blue slowness not even classic. Feels extra slow. I agree tho. Item loot better motivator than exp loss tho..motivates people to kill each other while making them want to avoid death to the max.

Not when you have max No-Drop geared toons dropping bombs on people in 'bazaar gear'.

[canardvc]

Smedley + no pvp = $0. not $12500, not $100, zero dollar. Seen his face in the vids? "Yeah guys I know, I fucked up thousand games, but this one is the right one. Got any dollar to spare by any chance ?"

Good one though. Rogaine gets royalties off of it btw ?