Congratulations Lord Bob

[chief]

Originally Posted by Jesseca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK! I read the first 14 pages before I felt like my head was going to explode. I even commented on one of the posts. But I really feel the reason for this thread got lost in the shuffle.

First of all.... I want to say that Azure Guard has never "shxx" on any guild, nor will we ever.

Secondly.... the problem here is simple. Rotation or not...what happened last night was completely wrong and I feel GM's should of inforced it in Indignations favor. Not because of the player-enforced rotation but simply because of Respect.

The only reason anyone kills mobs on island 1 is to progress to island 2 and then 3 etc. etc. That alone should give them the claim to the zone. It is simply disrespectful to move ahead of anyone that is killing for keys on any island. This is just opening a door for people who have keys to island 5 while a guild is doing 4 to move on to 5.

Never in my 14+ years of everquest has that ever been accepted.

What is happening here is disrespect to each other is being encouraged. If there is anything I could do to make it stop, believe me I would.

Yaolin made this post so everyone would know of this disrespectful act. Especially, the GM's.

I am going to make one request....GROW UP!!

no u grow up

[Urath]

So you're telling me in the first 14 pages you didn't read the posts where Lord Bob was denied into the rotation before making the post to not go by the rotation? And you're also telling me that in you're 14 years you've never seen or heard of another guild skipping over another guild killing trash to get to the main prize? I'm sorry but you don't get treated with respect after you never treated Doljkahsjkdhfjkas with respect in the first place. People played dirty so we played dirty back......GET A GRIP!!

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Jesseca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only reason anyone kills mobs on island 1 is to progress to island 2 and then 3 etc. etc. That alone should give them the claim to the zone.

that really depends on whether or not they were using imperial dogs

see pierson v post

[Sinestria]

Originally Posted by Urath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you're telling me in the first 14 pages you didn't read the posts where Lord Bob was denied into the rotation before making the post to not go by the rotation? And you're also telling me that in you're 14 years you've never seen or heard of another guild skipping over another guild killing trash to get to the main prize? I'm sorry but you don't get treated with respect after you never treated Doljkahsjkdhfjkas with respect in the first place. People played dirty so we played dirty back......GET A GRIP!!

Show me a fucking quote where they ask any other guild about the rotation. Go ahead.

All you had is Deru's backwash from what their leader claims "they talked to 'someone' in IB and BDA"

Not very explicite....cuz it never happened

[Urath]

Originally Posted by Sinestria [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Show me a fucking quote where they ask any other guild about the rotation. Go ahead.

All you had is Deru's backwash from what their leader claims "they talked to 'someone' in IB and BDA"

Not very explicite....cuz it never happened

"Butthurt"

[Jesseca]

So you're telling me in the first 14 pages you didn't read the posts where Lord Bob was denied into the rotation before making the post to not go by the rotation? And you're also telling me that in you're 14 years you've never seen or heard of another guild skipping over another guild killing trash to get to the main prize? I'm sorry but you don't get treated with respect after you never treated Doljkahsjkdhfjkas with respect in the first place. People played dirty so we played dirty back......GET A GRIP!!

Give me one example of when you never received respect from me or my guild?

I have never once saw any proof of when Dolj asked to be part of the rotation. All I saw was hearsay and proof that the leader of Dolj ignored or made the statement that he wanted nothing to do with a rotation. Which is fine. You don't want to be a part of rotation that is your choice. But going ahead of anyone, that is in sky already killing mobs, is wrong.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naw, it's called sarcasm. In any case,


Doljon as a whole isn't big on the forums. Most of their leadership rarely even comes here. Here's my conversation with their guild leader about the rotation. I approached him because I was concerned about someone raiding sky outside of the rotation causing a potential headache for the staff.

[Wed Dec 25 12:58:44 2013] You told Hyjal, 'was just curious what you guys were told when you tried to get into the sky rotation?'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:06 2013] You told Hyjal, 'its not something gm's enforce, but i had heard several stories about what happened and was just trying to satisfy my own curiosity'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:06 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'that we are uncapale of doing it'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:19 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'uncapable'
[Wed Dec 25 12:59:56 2013] You told Hyjal, 'anything else...?'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:07 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'honestly, were not use to rotations. the end game dragons/gods are not on a rotation'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:18 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'but for some reason sky is. we are unable to compete with dragons, gods'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:22 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'currently at least'
[Wed Dec 25 13:01:45 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'our only options are the planes. we asked about rotation when we first started, but was told we were uncapable of doign the plane'
[Wed Dec 25 13:02:01 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'so we just have gone against the grain i guess'
[Wed Dec 25 13:02:34 2013] You told Hyjal, 'was there any justification as to why you couldn't handle clearing sky...?'
[Wed Dec 25 13:03:02 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'nope, just that we havent proven anything basically'
[Wed Dec 25 13:03:18 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'the initial hostility definitely set the tone for us. we have gone more toward an FTE environment'


[Wed Dec 25 13:17:36 2013] You told Hyjal, 'i have no idea who decides on the sky rotation, i dont think its any one person'
[Wed Dec 25 13:17:45 2013] You told Hyjal, 'thats why i was wondering who had told you no'
[Wed Dec 25 13:18:44 2013] Hyjal tells you, 'ah. i asked random folks in ib, and bregan at first'

Unless Doljon's guild leader was straight up lying to me in this conversation, which he really had no reason to do considering I had already expressed to him that we don't enforce the Sky rotation, I'd say my info is correct regarding Doljon being told 'no' is correct.

Maybe Doljonijiarnimorinar should have tried harder to get on the rotation, I can't speak to that. But I can say that if I had asked about getting on the rotation and was told 'no, you aren't good enough for sky,' I wouldn't be thrilled about pursuing the issue further either.

I rarely just 'assume' things, A-aron, and when I do, I make sure it's a solid assumption backed by evidence first. Doljon didn't get invited to voice their opinion at the raid talks either, and you guys are surprised that they are jaded?

pretty sure Hyaj here is lying about asking for a rotation spot. he didn't do it in the Sky thread. who did he ask? i'm willing to eat my words and admit he wasn't lying if someone can verify that he actually did ask.

[pharmakos]

apologies if that was covered 30 pages ago, still reading through this shitfest.

[Tongpow]

most of us are actually just play the game, i think only me and like 2 other people even have more than like 2posts

pretty sure that shit was all ingame

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Urath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sorry but you don't get treated with respect after you never treated Doljkahsjkdhfjkas with respect in the first place.

I think you should start asking yourself what is more likely:

A: Everyone in the server decided to fuck with you guys cause you have an annoying name
B: Your leader has been lying to you about just about everything