Here's your chance to influence LnS

[SamwiseRed]

Wudan was numba one.

[Butthead]

i wish i had listened to nirgon, if i had, it woulda saved alota time/effort lol.

and good to see ur still alive samewise =D

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Edgat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know how you replied I am asking you to leave the petition open after you reply instead of just moving it to resolved because saying "video too blurry" isn't resolved.

Ask for clarification say I couldn't see in your chat box the name of the person who did x that you claimed do you have logs to back it up or something.

I move those threads because there are 200 other petitions in the forum, and we add another 200-400 petitions every week between red and blue. I need to keep it organized so I can see what's going on in the day-to-day.

You can submit another petition, you don't have to use the same one!

Originally Posted by Rallyd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

These rules were not designed to protect low level or new players, these rules were designed to get rid of certain "disliked" individuals on the server, and to attempt to stop Nihilum from maintaining dominance.

Keep that in mind when making suggestions for changes, any suggestions other than those that will help this design work better will be shot down.

If Nihilum can't maintain their 'dominance' in PvP because they are unable to continue a 10 hour endurance zerg rush fight, I'm not sure what to do for you. PvP shouldn't be about who can get the most people to continue fighting until one side gets tired and quits, it should be about organization and precision strikes designed to cripple a force and ultimately eliminate them from the engagement through tactics and skill by removing their members from the fight.

While I agree that being able to quickly res your fallen, or otherwise return them to the battle to continue fighting is an important part of mass PvP, it promotes zerg tactics and a frustrate-your-opponent-until-they-give-up mentality that isn't good for anyone, including Nihilum.

Why Nihilum is raising hell over this when they clearly have the numbers, tactics, organization, and leadership to continue dominating in this kind of environment boggles my mind.

[heartbrand]

I just don't get it. Nihilum has gotten almost every single "call" since day one of the server up to this point, be it clicky wands and Mage swords being used and then removed after nihilum were done using them, the nagafen exploiting, the holocaust ban, exp loss, the Kunark exp bonus when the server was 80% nihilum players that was removed the same time the majority of them hit 60, the slap on the wrist punishment for their players who flagrantly broke rules. Now we put in classic rules that say "hey you can't continue to kill naked people trying to loot and scoot" and suddenly the server is awful and corrupt? Lol?

[Mac Dretti]

Originally Posted by Gongshow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A .gif is worth a thousand words.

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[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why Nihilum is raising hell over this when they clearly have the numbers, tactics, organization, and leadership to continue dominating in this kind of environment boggles my mind.

Ding ding ding. Red dawn barely has level 60's, nevertheless level 60 alts, and you guys are camping 2/3/4/5 some people SIX level 60 alts at Trakanon for mass pvp and you're still crying about a no Rez rule that FAVORS nihilum? Holy fuck.

[Mac Dretti]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ding ding ding. Red dawn barely has level 60's, nevertheless level 60 alts, and you guys are camping 2/3/4/5 some people SIX level 60 alts at Trakanon for mass pvp and you're still crying about a no Rez rule that FAVORS nihilum? Holy fuck.

i think the part that is annoying to Nihilum is how it appears every violation on Red Dawn side is ignored

[heartbrand]

The horror that the other side is finally getting some calls. Now just a guild ban for a couple weeks on nihilum as well as some permas for the boxers and RMTers and we might be caught up soon.

Edit: I'm not actually asking for that. I'm just saying its funny seeing the indignation from team Nihilum after having benefited from almost every favorable call since day one of the server.

[k9quaint]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think the part that is annoying to Nihilum is how it appears every violation on Red Dawn side is ignored

Zero evidence? Zero violations.
Fraps and logs or it didn't happen.

[Supreme]

The complaint is that the rules seems to have been enforced without arbitration or appeal.

This leads to questioning of the integrity of the server as a whole. While you (Heartbrand) may label Nihilum as "that guild" which used wands, nagafen etc i can assure that it is not. You know this to be true as well!

We are not complaining about PNP or LNS. Whatever rules are put forth will be followed. We do take complaint to how it was being enforced as perma bans for our members and slaps on the wrist (for the same infractions) on non-Nihilum players.