Class C loses mobs on every repop?

[Erati]

right putting solutions out here in Server chat for trolls to feed on is not how you gain any traction on changing the raid scene

I would ( after the next repop or so) get your guild leaders who can post in those forums write something up and Rogean and co will look at it more closely

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right putting solutions out here in Server chat for trolls to feed on is not how you gain any traction on changing the raid scene

I would ( after the next repop or so) get your guild leaders who can post in those forums write something up and Rogean and co will look at it more closely

Yea we have had discussions about it. I hope something is being done behind the scenes but I don't know for sure. Didn't think it would hurt to get everyone else's take on it.

There have been surprisingly few trolls thus far, but I did think a GM would respond on day 1.

[slappytwotoes]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you are choosing to relinquish those mobs, likely because FFA mobs are tastier. You are trading competition within your own tier (going after C-mobs only) for competition amongst the entire server (FFA). If anything, you've likely increased competition by going for FFA mobs over C mobs. If C is worried about losing C mobs to R guilds, then kill your C mobs. FFA mobs are for everyone to compete over, they aren't yours by default. If you decide to go after them first, that's a choice you'll now have to live with.

^ this argument makes me think it was intentional by Rogean.

Even if not, he wanted BDA to move to Tier-C from the beginning and I'll bet he keeps it this way to provide an incentive for at least one R guild to move up to C shortly.

Regardless, everything you said Hitpoint makes a lot of sense and should at least be considered.

[falkun]

You still haven't shown how C guilds "lose mobs every repop". Sure, you can target FFA targets over C targets, but you still get your guaranteed 4 (C) + 6 (VP) mobs. Your C mobs are not touched unless you gorge on FFA mobs, but then you just trade one mob for another, which you actively choose to do.

The bag limit, and its consequences, are intentional.

[baramur]

So your not considering vp is c class exclusive because that is currently the only guilds that can even down those mobs. They worked to get keys, thus putting in the time to allow them to kill in vp. You could make vp an r rotation and the end result would be the mobs would go to ffa status. It is more a reward for those that keyed themselves to raid, allowing c class mo s to be killed by r class, because c class guild is capped at two defeats the whole premise of equal chance between r class and c class. This inheritently gives r class guilds more then the 1/1/1 rotation.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think its funny that this ignorant hitpoint guy thinks any mobs are his.

You chose class C.

Follow the rules and quit crying like a baby about other guilds now being able to attempt to kill dragons you selfish fucking cunt.

FE and TMO tears abound.

Still talking about competition. Why don't you go ahead and remove that from your vocabulary.

THE COMPETITIVE GUILDS CAREBEAR'D IT UP IN THE "COMPETITION ZONE" (Veeshan's Peak)
They split up and killed some mobs separate but most of the dragons they killed together as an alliance and split the loot.

Tell us more about why VP mobs should be exclusive to Class Carebear?

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[Pheer]

You guys are trying really hard to get this moved into RnF

[LizardNecro]

Hitpoint, I haven't heard an answer to why class C guilds can't split into smaller, more competitive guilds. This would let class C as a whole get all FFA mobs (assuming superior mobilization) and all class C mobs (by default). You'd get the 66% of mobs.

[Tycko]

It is amusing guilds screaming competition the entire time share vp mobs on pop.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still haven't shown how C guilds "lose mobs every repop". Sure, you can target FFA targets over C targets, but you still get your guaranteed 4 (C) + 6 (VP) mobs. Your C mobs are not touched unless you gorge on FFA mobs, but then you just trade one mob for another, which you actively choose to do.

The bag limit, and its consequences, are intentional.

Okay I'll show right now how class C can lose mobs every repop, even though I've done this already in this same thread. What if for one repop there are 7 Class C mobs, then class C loses one. What if for one repop, we have 5 class C mobs and FE/IB chooses to raid together. Then Class C loses one. Both of these are extreme examples, but they assume that we don't go for any FFA mobs at all, and we should be able to. Had there not been a repop, and these mobs spawned normally we would surely be able to contest them. Repops only hurt us with regards to the rotation.