Questions for Chest/BDA and others

[quido]

They don't make medicine for what Chest has.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the low-number bid suggestion is getting lost in a sea of jibjab =P put your support behind this proposition!

I think it's an awesome idea. Post it in the raid forum (since you can).

[Raavak]

Just noting that as far as I know TMO hasn't responded to the 1/1/1 plan, other than Jeremy's 1/1/1/1 thing, which I don't know what to make of.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by baalzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's an awesome idea. Post it in the raid forum (since you can).

He did! :P Its in Rogean's 1/1/1 thread.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where is TMO's response? Or are we no longer in Tier 1.

I just figured since Chest gets to speak for all of the tier2s, then why can't Tanthallas speak for all the tier1s?

I mean, that's how everyone else is acting.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He did! :P Its in Rogean's 1/1/1 thread.

Ah, I see that. Was a lil behind on the progression of that thread. Kinda thing he should throw it in as it's own thread as something that could be inserted into whatever discussions from there forward.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You have to admit there is a difference between an accidental train and a train meant to wreck havoc on another guild's raid. Assuming everyone plays nice the second type won't exist (good luck). But, you are going to have a lot more accidental trains in KC when VS spawns, and they may not even be caused by a raiding guild. This is a statistical probability and has nothing to do with people being jerks.

Who said anything about people being jerks? Penalizing trains has nothing to do with punishing jerks.

Trains should be handled with a regime of strict liability. If you want to raid, you assume the risks inherent in mobilizing to a raid mob that is desired by hundreds of other players. You're liable for any harm you cause, whether or not it was intentional or even negligent.

This would put the onus on the guild to ensure its members are not training. Police your own guild. If you have members too stupid to get to an encounter without training, then you're inadequately screening and/or instructing your guild members to the detriment of every other raiding guild on the server. You must be held liable, lest we allow your guild's harmful action to be subsidized by another guild's acceptance of the resulting burden.

As a guild, you should not expect to be welcomed into the raiding scene until you are capable of controlling your raid force such that you do not negatively impact any other raid force. You are welcome to compete, to race, to kill mobs. You are not welcome to incompetently thrash around and ruin the encounter for everyone else in a mad dash to get FTE.

[Splorf22]

The real problem, Daldoma, is that two raid forces in the same zone just doesn't work.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who said anything about people being jerks? Penalizing trains has nothing to do with punishing jerks.

Trains should be handled with a regime of strict liability. If you want to raid, you assume the risks inherent in mobilizing to a raid mob that is desired by hundreds of other players. You're liable for any harm you cause, whether or not it was intentional or even negligent.

This would put the onus on the guild to ensure its members are not training. Police your own guild. If you have members too stupid to get to an encounter without training, then you're inadequately screening and/or instructing your guild members to the detriment of every other raiding guild on the server. You must be held liable, lest we allow your guild's harmful action to be subsidized by another guild's acceptance of the resulting burden.

As a guild, you should not expect to be welcomed into the raiding scene until you are capable of controlling your raid force such that you do not negatively impact any other raid force. You are welcome to compete, to race, to kill mobs. You are not welcome to incompetently thrash around and ruin the encounter for everyone else in a mad dash to get FTE.

That's easy to say. I don't know what guild you're in, but I'd put money on every single guild on this server training VS pit if they were given the opportunity. There's always 1 idiot.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They don't make medicine for what Chest has.

Aripiprazole