I am pretty sure Nihi made up their own rule pls clarify Sirken

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agree to disagree.

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[Mac Dretti]

Originally Posted by Sektor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're lying. Retti sent me a text with the pic of the bat phone call. lol.

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Same people that were in T'S to contest Ragefire before Rd amassed 70 people were the same people that relocated to DL before RD even spawned ragefire.

[Nirgon]

Retti you leakin?

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again...pvp server. It's harder here. You can't always just rez up and go about your business. You can call it an asshole move or you can respect it as a demoralizing victory for Nihilum...doesn't really matter. If Nizzar doesn't want to negotiate that's up to him. But I was campaigning (somewhat successfully) to do full exp rezzes on all RD after YT up until the Exed thing. I think even you can understand why Nizzar called off the rezzing at that point.

The one thing I can say is, I believe doing any rezzing at all was a good faith gesture by Nihilum. For all the crying about how every opportunity to grief was taken last night, nowhere does it say or even imply that any rezzes have to be given. The rezzes were explicitly ordered by Nizzar, it wasn't people going rogue and doing it. Nobody is arguing rules were broken for once. I haven't seen any calls for bans. It is certainly your prerogative to argue for additional PNP rules to cover what happened last night though.

I guess my point is, Nizzar could have made it worse on you and he chose not to.

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Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a pawn on the chestboard at best.

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[mrproudbeard]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again...pvp server. It's harder here. You can't always just rez up and go about your business. You can call it an asshole move or you can respect it as a demoralizing victory for Nihilum...doesn't really matter. If Nizzar doesn't want to negotiate that's up to him, I'm a pawn on the chestboard at best. But I was campaigning (somewhat successfully) to do full exp rezzes on all RD after YT up until the Exed thing. I think even you can understand why Nizzar called off the rezzing at that point.

The one thing I can say is, I believe doing any rezzing at all was a good faith gesture by Nihilum. For all the crying about how every opportunity to grief was taken last night, nowhere does it say or even imply that any rezzes have to be given. The rezzes were explicitly ordered by Nizzar, it wasn't people going rogue and doing it. Nobody is arguing rules were broken for once. I haven't seen any calls for bans. It is certainly your prerogative to argue for additional PNP rules to cover what happened last night though.

I guess my point is, Nizzar could have made it worse on you and he chose not to.

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Use common sense and don't be a dick.

You write a lot of words to justify wasting the time of a lot of people. The fact that you think you need a "demoralizing victory" in Everquest kind of speaks volumes. We could all try playing to have fun, saying "good game" to each other at the end of a fight, and moving on to the next battle? The fuck does this have to be so serious for?

[Rellapse36]

Ty Retti for being the Nilly leak

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by mrproudbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You write a lot of words to justify wasting the time of a lot of people. The fact that you think you need a "demoralizing victory" in Everquest kind of speaks volumes. We could all try playing to have fun, saying "good game" to each other at the end of a fight, and moving on to the next battle? The fuck does this have to be so serious for?

We don't "need" to fight each other at all, but we do. Explain how yesterday could have played out differently where you wouldn't be calling everyone from Nihilum's side a dick? This is without RD getting a Gore kill while also forcing them to leave the zone so they couldn't make another attempt. Or are you saying you should have just got repeated uncontested attempts at Gore? Keep in mind any solution must be within the GM designed ruleset.

[Mac Dretti]

Thanks for complying with PnP and not letting your fragile baby blue feelings get hurt

[freez]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You had 65 for ragefire, we had 25.

sounds familiar




enjoy the zerg.

[mrproudbeard]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We don't "need" to fight each other at all, but we do. Explain how yesterday could have played out differently where you wouldn't be calling everyone from Nihilum's side a dick? This is without RD getting a Gore kill while also forcing them to leave the zone so they couldn't make another attempt. Or are you saying you should have just got repeated uncontested attempts at Gore? Keep in mind any solution must be within the GM designed ruleset.

Lol seriously? Both sides could have tried TALKING with each other instead of opting for the "waste everyone's time" route. RD could have asked for LNS despite not actually dying to pvp, realizing the situation they were in. Nihilum could have allowed them to xp rez their folks and get out of dodge.

Remember, PNP is trumped by anything the parties involved agree to. It's not that hard to act like civil people to one another after a fight. We're all here to enjoy Everquest right? Taking the stance that "we didn't WANT to do this but we HAD to do this because of the PNP" is just being obtuse.

For the record, I wasn't involved in the fight at all last night. I logged in at the tail end of it and would have been too low level to be involved anyway. I still see plenty of people behaving like complete dickheads to each other.