Re: Raid Situation

[Fael]

And how is that better than the 3-4 repop plan?

Dolic

[Aaron]

I never played on a server that had 3 years of Kunark.

[Fael]

Luclin server had a rotation on vs and trakanon and the planes. Everything else was FFA (killed by legacy of sorrow). My guild was 3rd one onto the rotation, we got maybe 8 trak teeth before velious spawned and it became a moot point.

Dolic

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never played on a server with an end game rotation. I was on E`ci and Tunare.

Caveat, there was an Asian & American rotation on Trakanon (HoO or Vane / Reconstructed), but that was more because they played 12 hours apart more than any formal agreement.

That's fine, but again, unless you played on every server, and can speak to the endgame handling of content of every server in classic EverQuest, you're speaking in regard to your servers, and those alone. Individual perception is a huge fault, and it is why science tends to go for more rigor. I will take at your word that your two servers did not have a rotation, other than the Trak arrangement that you made. But there are many others who also had a rotation on their servers, which are likely servers different from yours.

Both of these existed in classic simultaneously, but on different servers. The beauty of the staff proposal is that it allows for both to exist simultaneously on the same server. Let hardcore players play in their hardcore setting, and let casuals play in their casual setting. If both can relive their classic experience, that's a beautiful and elegant solution.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Fael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And how is that better than the 3-4 repop plan?

Dolic

Am I the only person that read what sirken posted fully? Shit clearly said at the bottom that guilds still needed to come up with a raiding plan for all spawns outside of the repops.

[Seltius]

Rogean please tell us what you envision your server being. I understand you're working and busy so when you have a chance.

This telling us to talk and fix it isn't and will not work. You have too many people who all have a different idea of what they want. You were contacted by a lot of people in PMs it sounds like but how many is a lot when you have over 1k population all subject to the decisions made. I know not all are raiding now but some may in the future want to and some may just want to finish their epics one day. I understand the staff is volunteer but this is like a ship without a captain or crew. It isn't going to go anywhere without leadership.

The longer this takes to resolve the more people you may lose and the better chance of someone looking for something else to play to hang with friends. It also looks bad publicly to people who may have considered playing this game to see this.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The longer this takes to resolve the more people you may lose and the better chance of someone looking for something else to play to hang with friends. It also looks bad publicly to people who may have considered playing this game to see this.

lmao, scare tactics always work... especially on Rogean.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Seltius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean please tell us what you envision your server being. I understand you're working and busy so when you have a chance.

This telling us to talk and fix it isn't and will not work. You have too many people who all have a different idea of what they want. You were contacted by a lot of people in PMs it sounds like but how many is a lot when you have over 1k population all subject to the decisions made. I know not all are raiding now but some may in the future want to and some may just want to finish their epics one day. I understand the staff is volunteer but this is like a ship without a captain or crew. It isn't going to go anywhere without leadership.

The longer this takes to resolve the more people you may lose and the better chance of someone looking for something else to play to hang with friends. It also looks bad publicly to people who may have considered playing this game to see this.

A policy dictated to people is never as easily accepted as a policy that the people accept unto themselves. That's likely the reason for sitting back and letting us hash this out. Eventually, someone will give, a compromise will be made, and a set of raid plans will be created. I can only hope that it is the Staff Proposal, so that each side can play their role all month long, rather than only on repops.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Am I the only person that read what sirken posted fully? Shit clearly said at the bottom that guilds still needed to come up with a raiding plan for all spawns outside of the repops.

Ahh. So your proposal is in in conjunction to the repop plan ? Not all of us are expert forum questers. Got to lead us to the water.

Dolic

[Erati]

i think most proposals included some form of "sim patch day" repops

basically with Rogeans or Stealins plan the repops would serve to speed up the cycles as the repopped mob would still follow the tier it was suppose to belong to as if it had spawned normally

Repops will b a part of the solution no matter what plan is decided on