A Plea for Sanity

[heartbrand]

Couple things:

1) I've defended myself 100x on these forums from bs accusations. There was never a red dawn 1.0 guildbank, and how could there be we didn't kill a single mob. Everything else is hyperbole and what not in a desperate attempt to somehow discredit me and therefore my guild. You had no issue tagging me for over a year and giving me every item in the game making me the best geared char on the server with these accusations but now they are legit? Ok .

2) I told everyone to allow you guys to drag, however, during this spectre and tune continued to pvp us and basically would not concede the fight. We can't let you drag if you're going to continue the fight simultaneously. Nonetheless I rezzed your players without even being asked.

3) every conversation I've tried to have with nizzar or elderan turns into them just wanting to talk down to me and threaten / strong arm me "or else".

I have no issue having reasonable discourse with other reasonable human beings. But look at the ooc and posts by nizzar and elderan. It's propaganda smear campaigns 24:7. They don't care about the health of the server and how red dawn has revitalized the pop, they only care about "winning," and that's a shame.

Despite that I would still engage in reasonable discourse. The red dawn charter is simple. We don't attack nakeds, we allow lns, you can take your time to get your corpse and your friends corpse and we might even help you as long as it is because you have conceded the pvp engagement.

As far as a lot of the rhetoric on both sides, I don't support over the top trash talk, but that's the interwebs for you.

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Nizzarr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we ever camped people into quitting? why would we start now?

Are you serious?

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Despite that I would still engage in reasonable discourse. The red dawn charter is simple. We don't attack nakeds, we allow lns, you can take your time to get your corpse and your friends corpse and we might even help you as long as it is because you have conceded the pvp engagement.

As far as a lot of the rhetoric on both sides, I don't support over the top trash talk, but that's the interwebs for you.

Will you support clarifying some of the LNS rules for certain situations?

[heartbrand]

The only adjustments needed IMO is the ability to allow your slain comrades to participate in the pve after you win the fight. I also think being forced to scoot if the victor does not keep a presence in the zone needs to be changed.

[Koota]

I was born and raised on Rallos Zek, and decided to give this red box a shot. I'm on day 3, but after reading OOC and the constant back and forth - it's no fucking wonder this servers population is shit.

You guys are so fucking concerned with one upping one another, and trying to prove someone else wrong just to spite their face, you're all obnoxious as all fuck.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only adjustments needed IMO is the ability to allow your slain comrades to participate in the pve after you win the fight. I also think being forced to scoot if the victor does not keep a presence in the zone needs to be changed.

I would like some adjustments as well.

However we need some clarifications first. To my knowledge if you LNS from a zone and that person/guild who made you LNS is no longer in that zone then LNS time limit is invalid.

[Nizzarr]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couple things:

1) I've defended myself 100x on these forums from bs accusations. There was never a red dawn 1.0 guildbank, and how could there be we didn't kill a single mob. Everything else is hyperbole and what not in a desperate attempt to somehow discredit me and therefore my guild. You had no issue tagging me for over a year and giving me every item in the game making me the best geared char on the server with these accusations but now they are legit? Ok .

2) I told everyone to allow you guys to drag, however, during this spectre and tune continued to pvp us and basically would not concede the fight. We can't let you drag if you're going to continue the fight simultaneously. Nonetheless I rezzed your players without even being asked.

3) every conversation I've tried to have with nizzar or elderan turns into them just wanting to talk down to me and threaten / strong arm me "or else".

I have no issue having reasonable discourse with other reasonable human beings. But look at the ooc and posts by nizzar and elderan. It's propaganda smear campaigns 24:7. They don't care about the health of the server and how red dawn has revitalized the pop, they only care about "winning," and that's a shame.

Despite that I would still engage in reasonable discourse. The red dawn charter is simple. We don't attack nakeds, we allow lns, you can take your time to get your corpse and your friends corpse and we might even help you as long as it is because you have conceded the pvp engagement.

As far as a lot of the rhetoric on both sides, I don't support over the top trash talk, but that's the interwebs for you.

isnt the bolded part against the rules? you cant stop us from lnsing right? why are you not letting them get their body in the middle of the pvp?

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Koota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was born and raised on Rallos Zek, and decided to give this red box a shot. I'm on day 3, but after reading OOC and the constant back and forth - it's no fucking wonder this servers population is shit.

You guys are so fucking concerned with one upping one another, and trying to prove someone else wrong just to spite their face, you're all obnoxious as all fuck.

This is the server trying to fight for a few rights from the fully geared VP crew, to allow for guilds to play and have fun and possibly some day contest without the ultra hardcore crowd (50-60 hrs a week, Tune probably is closer to 80-100) shitting all over them.

This is not one upping, this is trying to make this place playable, and they are fighting to be able to do what they want and keep it low populated to suit their own personal interests.

[Nizzarr]

Did you hear crying for 2 hours all day about us not allowing your cleric to rez you in kc?

make sure to ask for clarifications on that one

[Stasis01]

I don't understand what's complicated about it, me and my guild cleric died, he was going to res me and we'd both LNS. You denied that because you're an asshole.