Weighted Point Value System - Serverwide Raid Idea Thread - Page 13

Yinikren · #**121** 12-30-2013, 06:50 PM

It isn't overly complex I think. Mobs are worth 1 point or 2. It's easy to rebalance based on what works.

Yinikren · #**122** 12-30-2013, 09:48 PM

Bump for a non-retarded raid proposal. Mobs for all 2014.

YendorLootmonkey · #**123** 12-30-2013, 09:52 PM

Yinikren, is Taken generally on board with this sort of system (maybe not exactly, but in spirit)? Just curious.

Buriedpast · #**124** 12-30-2013, 10:00 PM

Absolutely NO other raiding system proposed by anyone on this server so far, is comparable to this for simplicity.

Buriedpast · #**125** 12-30-2013, 10:07 PM

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Finally, this does little to address PetitionQuesting. It will reduce petitions in those less desirable races, but when TMO, FE, IB, and BDA decide they all want to spend points on that one PD, VS, or Trak, Rogean & Co. are gonna have a bad day. .

What drugs are you on?

Why does 2 or 3 guilds going after a mob make it a shitfight? We are trying to change an entire servers behaviour to rules and rule lawyering and sense of entitlement. Stop thinking like people cant change.

VP is CSR/PNP, and as such PD would simply be FTE.

And if there is a few petitions, then rogean can suspend us for a month until we learn to play nice. Simply, TMO, FE, IB must learn to play nice. If we dont play nice, by using /random, or anything else, then disband and ban people.

I am sick of raiding bullshit, FRAPS, petitions. There should be none, and if we cant handle disputes with /random and just walk away, then whats the point of trying to play nice. In the meantime, if disputes happen between FE and TMO, or Taken and BDA, etc etc, then I think everyone should be suspended for not being a fucking adult.

Autotune · #**126** 12-30-2013, 10:12 PM

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Absolutely NO other raiding system proposed by anyone on this server so far, is comparable to this for simplicity.

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Give every guild a weekly allowance (certain amount) let's say 100.

Give every raid target a value based on demand, let's say PD is valued at 50.

Any guild that takes out PD is now left with only 50 raid allowance.

Then just go from there. CT/Inny/VS/ could all be set at 30. VP dragons (except PD) could be 10s along with Kunark world dragons. Draco could be a 15. Vox/Naggy/maestro 10s.

DKP yo!

IDK, something like that could easily be tracked and gives some weekly planning by each guild.

I kinda proposed it awhile back lol.

Yinikren · #**127** 12-30-2013, 10:17 PM

Yendor, I wish I had a better answer for you. But I am not a taken spokesperson unfortunately.

I've posted in my forums and I've gotten reasonable support both here and on the forums from my own guild members, but I have not received endorsement from leadership as to if they have seriously considered this idea, if that makes sense.

Without sounding over the top, I would say that the majority of the guild is on board with a proposal like mine.

Hell, at this point I can comfortably say that the majority of the server not in TMO/FE is on board with a proposal like mine. There's no bias and no drawbacks and the only people who don't like it are those who are having mobs removed from them regardless.

Motec, coming from IB, endorses this as the fairest proposal. Coming from the other side of the fence, that is huge to me.

YendorLootmonkey · #**128** 12-30-2013, 10:39 PM

No problem... I understand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Keep fighting the good fight!

Yinikren · #**129** 12-30-2013, 10:41 PM

Last I heard, the idea was being used but not completely, I.e a convoluted mess like FE's proposal. We need a weekly system like this to have a decent chance at a clean raid scene on P99.

Is BDA on board with my idea, or a version of it?

Are any other guilds for this kind of idea? Europa, Divinity, A team, Azure Guard?

Edit: I can't reply to my guild boards on my phone at work, but I am seeing more and more support from my guild as time goes on. It is also ubiquitous amongst the guild that we do not agree with FEs proposal at all. I am sure you guys don't either.

DrKvothe · #**130** 12-30-2013, 11:10 PM

I'm not here to speak on behalf of BDA, but I think this system makes a lot of sense. IMO, weekly system is way too restrictive with variance. Need a monthly system. Still, same basic backbone.

Need guild council too that determines which guilds are ineligible for raiding. This would handle splinter guilds attempting to bypass the rules.