Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[goshozal]

What this sytem really needs is some spreadsheets.

[baramur]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This once a week thing doesn't sound like a good idea. I am 100% sure anyone who wants to raid and isn't in TMO/IBFE doesn't want to go on vacation waiting for 3 weeks to pass so they can get mobs again.

Weighted point system. Make guilds choose what mobs they want each week. Keep FTE and remove variance. I am still finishing up my draft for it.

And I apologize Jeremy. Might have been someone else, but for some reason 5/6 mobs and making 6 guilds fight for the last one rings heavily in my mind.

All guilds would be open to raid all month, except tmo/ib/fe who would have to sit out 1 week. Why would the other guilds go on vacation? You know they could actually try going after mobs and killing them, and like i said i think you would see some leniency from tmo/fe/ib on alot of mobs during those other 3 weeks also.

[Joroz]

pretty sure anyone is able to compete at any time on that system... just those two guilds would sit out a week each month allowing other raiders to take a crack at mobs that they would normally refuse to do the camp-out/bat-phone style of p99 for.

[Yinikren]

If guilds have had success for the last two years "just going after mobs" we wouldn't be having this conversation.

We have to limit guild intake of the mob pie. Without making a rotation, the best course of action is a point system that precludes guilds from targets so they have to choose what to go after each week.

[Joroz]

actually any raid that wants to do the camp-out a raid force and bat-phone should sit out the week with the big guilds... this would prevent any other raid guilds from using the same tactics to get mobs when everyone else that uses the tactic is sitting out.

[baramur]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If guilds have had success for the last two years "just going after mobs" we wouldn't be having this conversation.

We have to limit guild intake of the mob pie. Without making a rotation, the best course of action is a point system that precludes guilds from targets so they have to choose what to go after each week.

FE/IB has had pretty good success. Taken has killed a few mobs, BDA has not done bad, but the main factor is the raid scene is a cluster fuck. Maybe a cap limit is what it takes i dunno tbh. But imho if you do a cap limit, you have to make vp a part of it, they are still raid mobs, make the upper guilds choose between a fay and a xygozz or a inny and a druushk. I don't have the answers, but best advise i can give is start simple and small and try it out and go from there, dont push for all at once or nothing thing.

[Yinikren]

VP always was going to be a part of the point limit. I am still working on my post for the main forum until we get a set of raid forums.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see your point, but atm all other guilds besides tmo/ib/fe are currently getting 1/10 of the raid mobs? Hey if you asked me i would tell you this.

1st week month TMO/IB/FE sits out.
2nd week of month All Compete
3rd week of month TMO/IB/FE/next highest all sit out (but if a mob is up more then 4 hours its open to be engaged by anyone)
4th week All Compete.

way too complex

[Troubled]

If we want to talk about emulating as close to Live as possible, I've been told that it can be so where people don't camp at mobs or sock, but rather true races. Batphones would still happen as there's no way to regulate it. What are general thoughts on that?

[Retti_]

if only u could pvp each other and had static spawns