Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[Tasslehofp99]

I would be curious to see the outcome of simulated repops now that VP is train free.

I think that it would open up a lot of opportunities to spread loot around between more guilds.

[Joroz]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Equitable sharing != Equal Sharing

It is reasonable to expect some ability to meaningfully participate in the endgame as a casual. Say, one repop every few weeks. Or, perhaps 7 days of no raiding from the hardcores.

It is just as reasonable for a dedicated group to expect greater returns from their greater investment.

Whatever scheme is adopted should be equitable. Equal sharing of raid mobs is a bandaid that does not address the core issue, nor does it respect the logic of both sides.

There was no mention of equal sharing... just that the agreement gives reasonable opportunity to any and all raids on every raid mob. For that to work there needs to be a hand's off time period on mobs you recently killed sort of like the 2 hour thing you got going now. People claiming to be so elite on here that only they can kill stuff in off hours what do you care if you bat-phone it 2 hours later after watching no one show up or even worse new raids actually attempting raid mobs.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep fighting for TMO and FEIB to take most of the raid scene over more and see where it gets you. Our chat shouldn't have devolved into this. Are you ready to continue real discussions?

Are you trying to hold the raid scene hostage until you get everything you want? Good luck with that.

[baramur]

Ya was just thinking ultra simple. Which could be said as this, top 2 guilds of previous month will be required to sit out the first week of the following month. Just seems so simple and i actually believe TMO/IB/FE would agree to it, because 1 week breaks are nice, and its easy to enforce. Then the remaining guilds could come up with a way to break down the 1 free week if they felt.

[Lazie]

Ok, I know this won't be popular before I type it, but I think it is the only system that will work to solve all the problems until Velious when discussions will need to be had again. This isn't a bandaid this is a fix. The reason it will work is because it is simple and easy to follow and understand for even the outside observer.You have to move to a tier based system with as many guilds as there are. Yes rotating some of the mobs will be a part of it and the competition will be held largely at the top end of the raid mobs. The system is as follows.

Veeshan's Peak- Several rules about this zone. If you raid it Naggy and Vox is off limits to your guild. There is no 2 hour wait on spawns inside this zone. There is no rotation on this zone. It stays FFA. Track/Batphone/GET FTE/Kill.

Trakanon- Stays FFA. Track/Batphone/Get FTE/Kill. I know this is going to be one of the unpopular choices to some of the guilds. But you have to EARN your way into VP.

All other Epic piece mobs are on a tiered system which I will list.

Fay
INNY
Sev
VS
CT

If your guild wants to kill these mobs and haven't before they have to request for a spot on Fay. To move to the next mob on the rotation they must kill Fay 2 times cleanly. This will be the case for each mob on the list. You will still have to track and know when your Fay spawns. If 2 hours passes the mob becomes FFA to the entire server and you miss your spot on the rotation. Any guild that kills a FFA mob because of a missed kill by a guild retains their spot on that mobs rotation. There is a reward for knowing when the mob spawns and when 2 hours has passed if a guild fails to mobilize in the time given. If your guild misses the mob 2 times on the rotation you lose your spot on that mobs rotation.

Draco/Maestro/Gore/Tal- all stay FFA. Track it/Batphone it/Mobilize/Kill them

Naggy/Vox- My ideal solution for these 2 would be Weekly serverwide raids for guilds not competing for Mobs in VP. When they are found up. Shout it in EC/Post it on the forums and anyone wanting to participate in the kills get to Solb/Permafrost. That however is up to the guilds not competing in VP to decide. However I think some of the funnest raids I attended when I started playing EQ were the ones people threw together and complete strangers came together to get the mob killed. Would be a nice weekly event for the server.

[Tasslehofp99]

Why has no one specifically brought up CT yet ?


I think this is the most broken encounter p99 offers. Kiting all of fear should be considered raid interference. First guild in fear clearing mobs should get the first unimpeded attempt, if it is carried out in a reasonable amount of time.

Don't try to tell me guilds kited all of fear on live either, ill know you're lying then.

[baramur]

1st-8th of every month TMO/IB/FE on raid break hosting keggers at Tasslehoff and Alartis house. Problem solved. Rest of server can rejoice for 1 week a month!!!!!!!!!

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by baramur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1st-8th of every month TMO/IB/FE on raid break hosting keggers at Tasslehoff and Alartis house. Problem solved. Rest of server can rejoice for 1 week a month!!!!!!!!!

Byob, and if you puke at my house you better clean that shit up yo.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why has no one specifically brought up CT yet ?


I think this is the most broken encounter p99 offers. Kiting all of fear should be considered raid interference. First guild in fear clearing mobs should get the first unimpeded attempt, if it is carried out in a reasonable amount of time.

Don't try to tell me guilds kited all of fear on live either, ill know you're lying then.

But seriously, this...

[Joroz]

Tiered system is shit...

Why have special rules for all the trash raid mobs.

Yet leave the rules the same as now for anything that is worth killing? (epic/key mobs)