Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unrelated. Post moar.

It is absolutely related. Grades should be effort based and reflect your ability and the time your put it. Same goes for raids.

You only think you're being reasonable because of your track record. That doesn't give you any leverage(or disadvantage.) Try treating everyone like equal human beings here. I play here much more hardcore than I did on live and I was in one of the 3 guilds that did VP on the reg on my server. Here? Scrub/casual scum apparently.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, an even split is preposterous and you know it.

You know it's not, you're just fighting it. An even split still puts you ahead by 2 years out of 2 years and 3* months.

*subject to change

[quido]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You only think you're being reasonable because of your track record. That doesn't give you any leverage(or disadvantage.) Try treating everyone like equal human beings here. I play here much more hardcore than I did on live and I was in one of the 3 guilds that did VP on the reg on my server. Here? Scrub/casual scum apparently.

That is a perfect testament to how different from live this place actually is demographically. I wouldn't really know considering I never played live, but I'm pretty sure the fact that p99 is top-heavy is inherently unavoidable due to there not being the option to switch servers.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know it's not, you're just fighting it. An even split still puts you ahead by 2 years out of 2 years and 3* months.

*subject to change

People try to act like nobody ever got a mob since TMO was formed.

Keep fighting for an even split and see where it gets you.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is absolutely related. Grades should be effort based and reflect your ability and the time your put it. Same goes for raids.

That's like saying if I wanted to help my son with 5th grade math, in order for him to pass we should be doing trig. So yes, unrelated. Stop using bad analogies.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People try to act like nobody ever got a mob since TMO was formed.

Keep fighting for an even split and see where it gets you.

Keep fighting for TMO and FEIB to take most of the raid scene over more and see where it gets you. Our chat shouldn't have devolved into this. Are you ready to continue real discussions?

[quido]

So let's meet in the middle somewhere eh? I'm willing to negotiate. You seem to only want to have it your way.

[Yinikren]

Your negotions are a mob for one guild every 5-6 attempts. Try fitting 5 more in.

[Bossman]

It wouldn't be everybody had an even shot consider there are really only two guilds that are VP capable (the loot that is still relevant to you). Stop trying to loot whore and block epics

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So let's meet in the middle somewhere eh? I'm willing to negotiate. You seem to only want to have it your way.

I proposed what I thought of the point system a while back. Do you have any tweaks, suggestions, or thoughts to bounce against it? I think the point system is the way to go, but it needs weighed correctly and I'm sure my voice won't be the only deciding factor in that. That is a favorable system by any party given the right numbers. KEEP IN MIND, there are roughly 6 capable guilds and 1 guild taking half the highly contested spawns means #2 guild takes the other half and that's not what we're trying to do here, and that's why I weighed points like I did. I can quote it if you wish for tweaking.