Raid Scene 12/20 - 01/02

[sanforce]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's remarks like this that ruin conversations that are attempting to make this server more enjoyable for everyone. They're selfish, narrow-minded and are an obstacle to any real progress (though I'm sure that's the point). I don't see what's fun about shitting on other people. Everyone already knows how you feel by the first 10 posts you made like this. If you still want attention, make a post about it in RnF.

LF less douchebags.

This thread has no direction and is of limited value anyways. You calling me a douchebag doesn't help your position either, it looks like you are upset that I called someone a carebear and you immediately turn around and label me a douchebag. At least mine was a joke.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Purdee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's that? Buying an alt army? No. You clowns had that accomplished before it was banned, using plat from monopolizing, and other "shady tactics".

What alts? What purchased characters? You are talking about 1 or 2 people and applying it to 100. So sad you understand so little. I bet you have more alts than I do.

And its not carebear to be in TMO. You need to help out or you won't even get in. I could give you a list of people who didn't make to cut so they can tell you. If you've never tried and think you could even make the cut, you could possibly be quite disappointed.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread has no direction and is of limited value anyways. You calling me a douchebag doesn't help your position either, it looks like you are upset that I called someone a carebear and you immediately turn around and label me a douchebag. At least mine was a joke.

Right. A thread with a standing current raid agreement, that the man who runs the server posted in to say 'keep up these kinds of talks' is of limited value. May as well just send it to RnF as there's no point in moderating it.

You're right though, maybe I'm the jerk for implying that a guy who walks into a thread and calls people names is a douchebag. I apologize. Anyway, I'll stop derailing this.

[Purdee]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What alts? What purchased characters? You are talking about 1 or 2 people and applying it to 100. So sad you understand so little. I bet you have more alts than I do.

And its not carebear to be in TMO. You need to help out or you won't even get in. I could give you a list of people who didn't make to cut so they can tell you. If you've never tried and think you could even make the cut, you could possibly be quite disappointed.

Oh please, quit playing the victim. Only two people in your guild have raid ready alts?

What's sad, is watching a few of you trying to spin the information anyway you can, to possibly save your stranglehold in the server.

Don't tell me what I don't understand, I know the 86 accounts banned consumed many innocents, expect for the fact accounts were shared. You take the risk, reap the rewards.....

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say you are poisoning this community from a different side.

Says the guy whose guild has cockblocked the raid scene for years and even got called out by Rogean for doing so. Tell me again how I am poisoning the community for any non-TMO?

I will admit you started out in that other future raid scene proposal thread very constructive and positive, so I will give you that.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Says the guy whose guild has cockblocked the raid scene for years and even got called out by Rogean for doing so. Tell me again how I am poisoning the community for any non-TMO?

I will admit you started out in that other future raid scene proposal thread very constructive and positive, so I will give you that.

You don't post anything constructive. You are just a negative ball of Anti-tmo energy. The raid scene isnt cockblocked ANYONE can compete there. These are 32k dragons people. You can not blame TMO for your lack of time/effort.

TMO isnt the problem, TMO is the result of how this sever is shaped. If you want to fix the problem you need to reshape the server, not TMO.

Your vitriol and hatred in NO way helps the server. It is just divisory bullshit.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't post anything constructive. You are just a negative ball of Anti-tmo energy. The raid scene isnt cockblocked ANYONE can compete there. These are 32k dragons people. You can not blame TMO for your lack of time/effort.

TMO isnt the problem, TMO is the result of how this sever is shaped. If you want to fix the problem you need to reshape the server, not TMO.

Your vitriol and hatred in NO way helps the server. It is just divisory bullshit.

You still don't get it, do you?

Buying up a bunch of toons and logging multiple raid forces at multiple targets is NOT competition. Chasing off VD by having Botnet sink our ship internally via subterfuge is NOT competition. Rules-lawyering everything to find the loopholes and then crying to GMs to close the loopholes when they get used against you is NOT competition. Posting taunts and non-constructive shit in RNF every time a guild attempts a mob and wipes when you know damn well you own guild doesn't always execute flawlessly is NOT competition. It is only "competition" to a group of sociopaths that have taken the raiding scene to the extremes that has made EVERYONE ELSE that shares this server miserable.

"Oh, well nothing is stopping you from doing it to us" is exactly the problem you and your ilk perpetuate. No one else wants to stoop that low. Rogean is tired of these shenanigans being the barrier to entry into the raid scene.

Prove it? Ask anyone who has been part of the raid scene without TMO involved this last week what "healthy" competition looks like. If wanting a more enjoyable, healthy raid environment makes me "a hater full of vitriol", then so be it.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still don't get it, do you?

Buying up a bunch of toons and logging multiple raid forces at multiple targets is NOT competition. Chasing off VD by having Botnet sink our ship internally via subterfuge is NOT competition. Rules-lawyering everything to find the loopholes and then crying to GMs to close the loopholes is NOT competition. Posting taunts and non-constructive shit in RNF every time a guild attempts a mob and wipes when you know damn well you own guild doesn't always execute flawlessly is NOT competition. It is only "competition" to a group of sociopaths that have taken the raiding scene to the extremes that has made EVERYONE ELSE that shares this server miserable.

"Oh, well nothing is stopping you from doing it to us" is exactly the problem you and your ilk perpetuate. No one else wants to stoop that low. Rogean is tired of these shenanigans being the barrier to entry into the raid scene.

Prove it? Ask anyone who has been part of the raid scene without TMO involved this last week what "healthy" competition looks like.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Purdee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Buying an alt army?

Originally Posted by Purdee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only two people in your guild have raid ready alts?

You said buy.

The members of FE were generally the people buying alts. Notice how they went from competitive to losing regularly once the trade ban was instituted.

TMO has a fair amount of alts, that we played from lvl 1. Why? Because we like to play and play often. What this boils down to is you hate how we play more than you do. But since you can't keep up in play time you want rules instituted to let people who play less get the same things as those who play more. And that's a fact.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still don't get it, do you?

Buying up a bunch of toons and logging multiple raid forces at multiple targets is NOT competition.

Most of us leveled toons... because its fun.

Chasing off VD by having Botnet sink our ship internally via subterfuge is NOT competition.

More of that tin-hat crazy talk. VD died because they had crazy pride and couldn't win.

Rules-lawyering everything to find the loopholes and then crying to GMs to close the loopholes when they get used against you is NOT competition.

Exampes? Or is this just more accusations without substance.

Posting taunts and non-constructive shit in RNF every time a guild attempts a mob and wipes when you know damn well you own guild doesn't always execute flawlessly is NOT competition.

That is RnF...it is the place for non-constructive shit. You can ignore the entire RNF section if you like.

It is only "competition" to a group of sociopaths that have taken the raiding scene to the extremes that has made EVERYONE ELSE that shares this server miserable.

Yendor youngpsycologist.

"Oh, well nothing is stopping you from doing it to us" is exactly the problem you and your ilk perpetuate. No one else wants to stoop that low.

Doing what to whom? We raid. We don't cheat/train etc.

Rogean is tired of these shenanigans being the barrier to entry into the raid scene.

Let Rogean speak for himself

Prove it? Ask anyone who has been part of the raid scene without TMO involved this last week what "healthy" competition looks like.

So your proof is that people who don't compete for mobs like getting free shit? No shit. If I walk into a Target and they want to give me a free blender I'd be happy too. Look up the definition of scarcity

If wanting a more enjoyable, healthy raid environment makes me "a hater full of vitriol", then so be it.

Healthy,enjoyable defined by who?

This post is exactly what I am talking about. Just a bunch of spewed mis-informed hated. NOTHING productive there.
Thanks for demonstrating exactly what I was talking about.