Raid Scene Poll

[Tyym]

OMFG, reading all this makes me reflect back to my son's little league end of season where they passed out trophies to every team. WTF is a participation trophy anyway.

You know what, I am all for the spirit of cooperation but if you think everyone should have an equal chance at getting raid loot no matter what skill level or effort that is put in the game, then go play fucking WoW. Guilds are either raid guilds or they are family guilds. There is no in between. Guilds and their members put effort in to becoming what they are. As a guild, TMO may have been considered the douchebags of the server but they were well geared douche bags. You know why; they worked for it. Same with FE, IB and all guilds before whose collective efforts made the difference between winning your gear or buying it in the EC Tunnel.

As I said, I am all for implementing the Sloan style delay. It gives some guilds who normally wouldn't get an opportunity to kill a raid target once per week. As for rotations, hand holding and caps on how many mobs we can kill during a week; that is the stupidest shit I ever heard. But that's the state of mind in this day and age. No longer should people feel compelled to work for the shit they get. Everyone is entitled, everyone makes the team and everyone gets a participation trophy.


Morphius
60 Enchanter
Forceful Entry

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OMFG, reading all this makes me reflect back to my son's little league end of season where they passed out trophies to every team. WTF is a participation trophy anyway.

You know what, I am all for the spirit of cooperation but if you think everyone should have an equal chance at getting raid loot no matter what skill level or effort that is put in the game, then go play fucking WoW. Guilds are either raid guilds or they are family guilds. There is no in between. Guilds and their members put effort in to becoming what they are. As a guild, TMO may have been considered the douchebags of the server but they were well geared douche bags. You know why; they worked for it. Same with FE, IB and all guilds before whose collective efforts made the difference between winning your gear or buying it in the EC Tunnel.

As I said, I am all for implementing the Sloan style delay. It gives some guilds who normally wouldn't get an opportunity to kill a raid target once per week. As for rotations, hand holding and caps on how many mobs we can kill during a week; that is the stupidest shit I ever heard. But that's the state of mind in this day and age. No longer should people feel compelled to work for the shit they get. Everyone is entitled, everyone makes the team and everyone gets a participation trophy.


Morphius
60 Enchanter
Forceful Entry

A-Fucking-Men.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OMFG, reading all this makes me reflect back to my son's little league end of season where they passed out trophies to every team. WTF is a participation trophy anyway.

You know what, I am all for the spirit of cooperation but if you think everyone should have an equal chance at getting raid loot no matter what skill level or effort that is put in the game, then go play fucking WoW. Guilds are either raid guilds or they are family guilds. There is no in between. Guilds and their members put effort in to becoming what they are. As a guild, TMO may have been considered the douchebags of the server but they were well geared douche bags. You know why; they worked for it. Same with FE, IB and all guilds before whose collective efforts made the difference between winning your gear or buying it in the EC Tunnel.

As I said, I am all for implementing the Sloan style delay. It gives some guilds who normally wouldn't get an opportunity to kill a raid target once per week. As for rotations, hand holding and caps on how many mobs we can kill during a week; that is the stupidest shit I ever heard. But that's the state of mind in this day and age. No longer should people feel compelled to work for the shit they get. Everyone is entitled, everyone makes the team and everyone gets a participation trophy.


Morphius
60 Enchanter
Forceful Entry

The way the game is right now, anyone who joins TMO is essentially getting their participation trophies. Rotations are happening right now, except they're called DKP and exclusive to 1 tag.

Also, the idea that there has to be competition in a Player vs. Environment game is pretty silly to me.

[Versus]

P1999 Welfare

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P1999 Welfare

Only for the apps of TMO, everyone else is earning their loot the hard way.

[MaksimMazor]

The hard way: crying to GMs and allocating free raid mobs to yourselves

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Tyym [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OMFG, I don't think anyone should be able to succeed at classic everquest without spending huge amounts of time dealing with unclassic variance

Makes what you wrote sound a little sillier, doesn't it?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by MaksimMazor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The hard way: crying to GMs and allocating free raid mobs to yourselves

I'd tell you to see for yourself and try raiding against TMO sometime, but that means you'd actually have to compete for something.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Versus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A-Fucking-Men.

No "GUILD" left behind act. P99 celebrating meritocracy!

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No "GUILD" left behind act. P99 celebrating meritocracy!

If you don't like what's being discussed here, it is an open discussion. Feel free to offer up ideas to improve the raid scene instead of trolling everyone else who actually contribute ideas.