Lol, this isn't going to change anything.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Furthermore, you sound like a tmo cheerleader.

How should Europa have handled Heartbeats waiting for his Cabilis mob? Is it upon them to add him to a calendar? Who makes the calendar? Sounds like they just got to it first.

I personally wouldn't have the hours to compete with TMO, so I do other things in game. And imagine this, none of it involves a crown of rile and I can still be happy playing some how. I must be the craziest loon in the nut house.

[hatelore]

The question I asked you is pretty simple and straight forward. Have-YOU-ever-raided-against-tmo?

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The pathing is still horrible. They made it a little bit better a while ago but I don't think this was the reason they changed the rules now.

From what I've seen Nilbog and others post about it, it's leagues above what it was and is within a questionable area to say it's "okay."

Sirken was the last one I seen that posted he didn't think it was worth removing, but I'd say it wasn't far from being overturned by him at that time either.

Again, not discrediting the agreement you guys made, but I don't think the change was that far off from happening. maybe the straw that broke the camel's back

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon, serious question here. Have you ever raided against tmo on blue p1999?

I've been on characters raiding against them. They are truly brutal to compete with, but that said, if they slipped up and gave up another hour getting to a mob? They wouldn't get it. So I guess I don't have the time in my day to compete with FE/IB either if there were 40 of me (if "I was a guild"). They must be terrible, greedy people too.

However, you still get things here and the FTE shout has ensured if you are there and ready, you both have a mostly even chance. That's about as fair as it can get.

Being objective about all this isn't going to help you get pixels. So what's fair then?

I do think TMO should open up the world dragons and gods or at least have them open for set weeks (half) of the month where they will not go for them. But I control absolutely nothing on this server, I just try to support a classic ruleset and mechanics... and sometimes I get an ear and they are able to implement things or my perspective is valuable. You will not find my perspective valuable because it does not suit your needs, however, it is an objective one.

[radditsu]

It is way too late to give a shit about hoarding pixels on this box. The only possible gain is to corner markets/RMT value.

Pixels are cheap in p99 because of the extended kunark window. Give away the pixels and let scarcity be from the amount of people and not the poopsocking of bosses. The first year of velious will be scarcity of pixels...but eventually this box will be lush with pixels because IT ENDS AT VELIOUS. There will be no more pixels to be had.


It is time to get away from "classic" guild structures entirely. This box needs to embrace the nostalgia emulator and allow people to cycle in, get their pixels, and cycle out/stick around if they like the community. If they have a guild that CAN kill something they should at least have a chance without no-life children getting in the way of it. Killing something for the 200th time to prevent others to do so is retarded. How many times did trak spawn on live? 50? 75?


Nothing on this server, or any other EQ server ever, matters.

It doesnt matter if you killed quarm on live @ pop, or beat the original rathe council, or beat Aten Ra Ha, or wrecked AOW before luclin. Nobody gives one good goddamn about your kill count on a zek. None of this is respect worthy.

EVERYTHING about MMO's are a waste of time. If you grief others on this game, you are wasting your time by intentionally wasting others time. How shitty is that?


The box has a ruined timeline. Embrace this one for what it is. A ghost of something that you couldn't possibly have (until they make a real timeline progression server, patches and all). Stop being shitheads. Every goddamn one of you.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the staff was tired of the no CSR stuff in VP, and they want a friendlier raiding environment overall.

Yes and no. I think you will find some GM's didn't want this change. Why? Its only going to create a headache for them.

VP was made no-CSR because it was so easy to accidentally negatively affect another raid, even if you didn't try. You make it the same as any other raid zone and all you will have is constant complaints about ae-wurms going off on you or kited raptors aggroing you when the kiter dies, etc. Then the unfortunate side-effect of no-CSR rule could be used to intentionally grief another raid.

I'm not against the no training, heck I'm all for it. As a wizard I've probably died 50-100 times to various IB/VD/BDA/FE monks, necros, and SK's trains. I've wasted days and days in that god forsaken zone recovering from trains only to die again, and finally camp out without killing a single dragon. I want no training!

But as far as no CSR... I feel really sorry for the GM's once there is competition again. I really don't have a solution either. Some sort of limited CSR I guess. Like no intentional training without a raid force present and dragons attempted, or making VP a PvP zone or something, so that if 1 or 2 guys log in to train you you can just nuke them down, then go on with your raid.

[Lammy]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A system that is "fair to everyone" should reward organization and dedication, not people complaining with their hands out.

[talian21]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't speak as an officer or anything but I am fairly sure TMO would be all for allowing some mobs to be on a "not kill" list if FE/IB would agree to this.

Not that I believe trolls or anything, but fine, lets see this...

I am now awaiting the post announcing that TMO and FE/IB have a no kill list, one that isn't just "table scraps".

FE/IB has already demonstrated that they can cooperate, as seen by what's been spearheaded in the raid scene currently. The onus is now on TMO to do more than just talk.

May I suggest something like:

1.) Let VP be FFA so TMO can have their precious "competition" (no training), and TMO and FE/IB (and whoever becomes strong enough) can whack it out in there, but...

2.) Let the rest be a no-kill list, except for needed epic pieces and such, which (and this is the hard part) TMO will restrain itself to hitting once a month. A month is a pretty typical app time for a guild, not that unreasonable to go hit it once a month.

This is just broad strokes, and of course would need some adjustment, but in a general sense, it would allow TMO/top-tiers to have something to fight it out over (VP loots), but also allow smaller, raid capable guilds to enjoy high end content. I know TMO will have to hit non-VP mobs sometimes (epics, etc), and this allows for that as well, but it would restrain the greed that TMO has demonstrated an inability to control.

Again, I await the cooperative response from TMO leadership.


-Silisk, ikky necro

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the extended kunark window.

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The box has a ruined timeline. Embrace this one for what it is. A ghost of something that you couldn't possibly have (until they make a real timeline progression server, patches and all). Stop being shitheads. Every goddamn one of you.

Exactly. The top guild, TMO or not would be getting all this shit. But I do agree some of the older content should be shared out.

The more you realize it isn't TMO, but a top guild and an extended time line/limited content (hell, repeat this to yourself to you get it).. the closer you get to seeing my point and the less you think I'm just a cheerleader for them.

If IB or FE or the combination of the 2 of them was on top.. I would be saying the same thing.

The fact that Radditsu has used this point in his argument means there is a lot of hope for an objective view of the problems this server faces.

[hatelore]

I guess I am near sighted but all I read in your post is that you have raided against them on other characters. if rule lawyering, imtentional training, blatant lying to fit your agenda, zero shame in your actions or how you make others feel in the process of being a piece of shit is what you call brutal? Then yes, I and many others would agree they are brutal.

My point is, derail or not, tmo earned this shit ten fold. And shortsighted or not, its nice to see a speck of hope for the raid scene of p99. If the gods are just, tmo will be too splintered to ever regain number one status.

I like to hope Ib/fe will play fair if they become numero uno. Had some instances with getsome in sol b.and he seems to be a very level headed and chill guy.