Adjust Epic Quests

[Ele]

This is what Gordon had to say back in October 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/200101040...p?Article=2746

Source: EverQuest General Discussion Forums.

You know Abashi or Gordon or what ever you want to be called, this attitude of the I hate it for you the epic quest items are not for everyone really pisses me off. That is complete bull crap. I pay 9.95 a month, and I expect to be treated fairly. If you guys cant treat all players the same and make it where this stuff is atainable by all. And not make items available by only the elite few. Then you are not being Fair to every one and last I checked every one pays pretty much the same amount of money. Wake up and be fair to the Majority of players not the elite few.
Given the same dedication, ability, knowledge, and network of friends, you have the same chance of obtaining any item in the game as anyone else. All players are being treated the same way, that does not mean that every player will get the same things as every other player in the same calendar period.

Gordon then responded to another post on the same topic:

Please explain yourself. In another post you said that these items were never meant to come into the game enmass because that would throw off the balance of the game. What you are really saying here is that if you don't play the game 40 hours a week, or don't belong to an uber guild, your just SOL.

The quests are meant to be completed by people who can get help from a good number of other people. While I don't think that it means that you *must* be in a "uberguild", it certainly wouldn't hurt. These are top of the line items, and "top of the line" items aren't typically meant to be acquired solo.

So far it appears that everyone who has recieved the EPIC weapon has been a member or a friend of just such a guild.

I imagine that it's hard to find someone in the 50-60 range who could get enough support without having a guild or friends in such a guild to help.

If this is the case, just come out and tell us that most players will not be able to obtain their class defining weapon because they are either not connected socially or they have a life away from the game.

The vast majority of players in the level range to acquire these items is either in, or have friends in, a guild. Still, most players will not obtain the epic quest item period, regardless of guild status or level. Though I understand your feelings regarding the issue, it is intended to be this way. As I've posted before, no one is "entitled" to items in the game. Things that we want universally available are sold on vendors.

Guys, it's about prestige. These are meant to be prestigous items to have. If everyone has them, there's no prestige in having one.

- Gordon

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what Gordon had to say back in October 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/200101040...p?Article=2746

Source: EverQuest General Discussion Forums.

You know Abashi or Gordon or what ever you want to be called, this attitude of the I hate it for you the epic quest items are not for everyone really pisses me off. That is complete bull crap. I pay 9.95 a month, and I expect to be treated fairly. If you guys cant treat all players the same and make it where this stuff is atainable by all. And not make items available by only the elite few. Then you are not being Fair to every one and last I checked every one pays pretty much the same amount of money. Wake up and be fair to the Majority of players not the elite few.
Given the same dedication, ability, knowledge, and network of friends, you have the same chance of obtaining any item in the game as anyone else. All players are being treated the same way, that does not mean that every player will get the same things as every other player in the same calendar period.

Gordon then responded to another post on the same topic:

Please explain yourself. In another post you said that these items were never meant to come into the game enmass because that would throw off the balance of the game. What you are really saying here is that if you don't play the game 40 hours a week, or don't belong to an uber guild, your just SOL.

The quests are meant to be completed by people who can get help from a good number of other people. While I don't think that it means that you *must* be in a "uberguild", it certainly wouldn't hurt. These are top of the line items, and "top of the line" items aren't typically meant to be acquired solo.

So far it appears that everyone who has recieved the EPIC weapon has been a member or a friend of just such a guild.

I imagine that it's hard to find someone in the 50-60 range who could get enough support without having a guild or friends in such a guild to help.

If this is the case, just come out and tell us that most players will not be able to obtain their class defining weapon because they are either not connected socially or they have a life away from the game.

The vast majority of players in the level range to acquire these items is either in, or have friends in, a guild. Still, most players will not obtain the epic quest item period, regardless of guild status or level. Though I understand your feelings regarding the issue, it is intended to be this way. As I've posted before, no one is "entitled" to items in the game. Things that we want universally available are sold on vendors.

Guys, it's about prestige. These are meant to be prestigous items to have. If everyone has them, there's no prestige in having one.

- Gordon

Best post of the year, a late contender but a winner no less.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best post of the year, a late contender but a winner no less.

Not sure how a post 13 years ago is post of the year.

Anywhos, to OP - "Welcome to EverQuest".

Also, always feel free to think outside the box. EQ is a social game first and foremost, and there are always different ways for people to solve issues. Try talking to the people, see if you can start a list with ways to contact one another when their turn is due? Even take it out of game if needed. Try to start a rotation. The server had Ragefire on rotation for a very long time. Guilds that were "next in line" would often even help the current guild if it was that horrible 4am spawn or some garbage. You have an uphill battle, but if it's worth it to you, there are ways to make it work.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how a post 13 years ago is post of the year.

He uses information from then to make a point today, and it stands well.

When you can't say it better yourself, quote the original source.

Even better, it speaks to the intentions of the game from the words of the creators. If you want to spin the content/mechanics of this game into something that serves your interests better, you are welcome to try after he posted that.

Post of the year, this year, is served as a reminder.

[indiscriminate_hater]

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[Enygma]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what Gordon had to say back in October 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/200101040...p?Article=2746

Source: EverQuest General Discussion Forums.

You know Abashi or Gordon or what ever you want to be called, this attitude of the I hate it for you the epic quest items are not for everyone really pisses me off. That is complete bull crap. I pay 9.95 a month, and I expect to be treated fairly. If you guys cant treat all players the same and make it where this stuff is atainable by all. And not make items available by only the elite few. Then you are not being Fair to every one and last I checked every one pays pretty much the same amount of money. Wake up and be fair to the Majority of players not the elite few.
Given the same dedication, ability, knowledge, and network of friends, you have the same chance of obtaining any item in the game as anyone else. All players are being treated the same way, that does not mean that every player will get the same things as every other player in the same calendar period.

Gordon then responded to another post on the same topic:

Please explain yourself. In another post you said that these items were never meant to come into the game enmass because that would throw off the balance of the game. What you are really saying here is that if you don't play the game 40 hours a week, or don't belong to an uber guild, your just SOL.

The quests are meant to be completed by people who can get help from a good number of other people. While I don't think that it means that you *must* be in a "uberguild", it certainly wouldn't hurt. These are top of the line items, and "top of the line" items aren't typically meant to be acquired solo.

So far it appears that everyone who has recieved the EPIC weapon has been a member or a friend of just such a guild.

I imagine that it's hard to find someone in the 50-60 range who could get enough support without having a guild or friends in such a guild to help.

If this is the case, just come out and tell us that most players will not be able to obtain their class defining weapon because they are either not connected socially or they have a life away from the game.

The vast majority of players in the level range to acquire these items is either in, or have friends in, a guild. Still, most players will not obtain the epic quest item period, regardless of guild status or level. Though I understand your feelings regarding the issue, it is intended to be this way. As I've posted before, no one is "entitled" to items in the game. Things that we want universally available are sold on vendors.

Guys, it's about prestige. These are meant to be prestigous items to have. If everyone has them, there's no prestige in having one.

- Gordon

+1 ... this is the reason we all play here and not World of Warcraft - if you want hand outs there's a different game for you... or there was a week ago anyway...