PvP Zone? - Page 3

Tetrian · #21 08-23-2010, 10:43 AM

A RVR like zone, similar to the newbie ones in DAOC would actually be pretty own. Its not classic, i know, but it would be a massive improvement to the arena, and a fun non grief/low impact alternative to pvp in EQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Place it somewhere central for easy access - EC or similar. Simple or complicated, it would likely add a good bit of fun to the game.

HippoNipple · #22 08-23-2010, 11:16 AM

PvP is awesome and people who disagree are probably just too scared to give it a shot. If they did they would enjoy it also. With that said the people who don't like and have never tried it are the majority and they won't allow it on the server.

People who say "if you want pvp just turn your book of discord in" have to realize that isn't a real option on this server. You can then not group with anyone blue because you can't be healed/buffed.

People who say go to the Arena don't understand what pvp really is. PvP is not a set up duel to mess around with it is a game style which changes the entire social dynamic for a server.

Alternatives to PvP on our server:

1) PvP events - The race pvp war event is a good example of how people can get their fix. Even though it is just an event and doesn't really effect how the community interacts with each other at least you get that guerilla warfare aspect where it isn't a straight duel with someone else. The duel takes away a lot of the pvp skill and ends up being more of who has better gear.

2) Flagging system - people that are flagged red cannot be healed/buffed by blues. Make it so people can heal/buff but are flagged red for 15 minutes. It might make it so a red is shunned from groups so they don't have the risk of being red, but maybe not. And if the red player doesn't like it they can always turn back to a blue with the priest of order.

3) Go semi PvP server where certain zones are PvP. I know this would upset a lot of people at first but I think its the most reasonable - but I'm also biased since I enjoy PvP. If you could just pick out a few zones that are connectors and not real hot spots for leveling it would be bearable for the true blues out there. You could also refrain from making dungeons PvP since that would make a lot of grief. An example would be making zones like south ro, lesser fay, rathe mountains, west and north karanas, and maybe a couple others pvp with a 4 level limit and coin only loot. This is my favorite option and it would give the people who enjoy pvp a real home without really disrupting others.

Another reason number 3 is the best is because it is probably the easiest change to make. I don't know anything about programming but making a couple zones pvp zones just seems easier than creating entire new zones that are pvp, making a complex flagging system that will make everyone happy (most likely impossible), or coming up with events all the time.

If the change totally bombed it could be changed back. Even doing it for a week trial basis and then seeing peoples reactions would be nice. It could even turn into something that happened every once in a while for a weeks duration. It could be announced a couple days prior, have something like a week out of every month - pvp zones active.

XeldiablosX · #23 08-23-2010, 11:27 AM

Enjoy'd pvp quite a bit on most games, but EQ was not one of them it was rather dull an boring here compared to all others I have played. However some people detest pvp at all so its kind of unfair to say they are scared and that they would enjoy it.

The main problem with any type of pvp "open, semi open" is the griefing and corpse camping. Yea its great when your the one griefing, but when your on the receiving end it's not so good. Its why I have always preferred that if you want to pvp join a pvp server.

Tallenn · #24 08-23-2010, 11:41 AM

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. People who want to turn the server PvP are basically just saying that they'd rather take the people who don't want PvP (the majority of us) and force them to do PvP. The people who want PvE aren't saying that you can NEVER get PvP, just that PvP is opt-in. You can turn your book in to the priest of discord if you want, you can go to an arena if you want, or you can duel people if you want. There's also the alternative of just starting your own server.

Opt-in PvP means everyone gets what they want. What so many douches on this server are suggesting is that only a few people should get what they want, while everyone else has to deal with the headache of PvP-loving morons being douchebags, hacking, and showing off their e-penis player-killing people over and over again until the server's population drops down to around 30 (like all the other PvP emu servers).

This is what I think: a bit before Kunark (or maybe even velious) is released, I think they should start a classic discord server to keep us all occupied. At least that way no one has any illusions about what they're getting into, and it's clear from the beginning that everyone involved is competing for the largest e-cock.

+1 (or 4 or whatever it's up to).

Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.

XeldiablosX · #25 08-23-2010, 11:46 AM

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Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.

That is pretty much spot on right there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Straif · #26 08-23-2010, 12:02 PM

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+1 (or 4 or whatever it's up to).

Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.

^^^ This ^^^

Hipponipple makes a good point however, if you re read the OP's first post, he wants a place to "get beat up and corpse camped".

I've been through my fair share of PvP (Started with UO). PvP is fun but the percentage of people who want to grief others FAR outnumbers people who have legitimate skill and or enjoy PvP'ing games.

UncleDread · #27 08-23-2010, 12:04 PM

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+1 (or 4 or whatever it's up to).

Get it through your thick heads, PvPers! You don't want just PvP, because that's already available. You want to have a fresh pool of people you can victimize, so that you can feel powerful and stroke your epeen. We don't want to be your victims. Start your own damn server.

I'm sorry to hear you have zero skill and sit in one spot killinng green spawn alday long.Do you think everyone feels the same way you do??Get the heck out of your Basement bro and see the sunshine.This is only a idea we are throwing around to make this game alittle funnier for the skilled players.We are only asking for a area not the intire server to be pvp.This way we dont upset YOU while your camping green bosses, Thinking Gold will buy you the end game items.[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

XeldiablosX · #28 08-23-2010, 12:07 PM

Cuz it takes a lot of skill to corpse camp someone thats 30 levels lower than you >.> jk =p But I can see what you mean. Not sure if that will be implemented at all though. However the funny part to that whole concept is ... there will be 2 people in the entire zone, rogues at that trying to find the other for hours til one zones an leaves of boredom and eventually the zone will be a waste of space.

Straif · #29 08-23-2010, 12:11 PM

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This is only a idea we are throwing around to make this game alittle funnier for the skilled players.We are only asking for a area not the intire server to be pvp.

Sorry not classic...

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

UncleDread · #30 08-23-2010, 12:11 PM

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Cuz it takes a lot of skill to corpse camp someone thats 30 levels lower than you >.>

If you cant handle the heat get the hell out of the oven.If you had FRIENDS you could group up and take down any Lvl that was greifing you.So your point is?