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[Loke]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no sympathy for cheaters/offenders. 86 account's didnt dupe. 2 players did. Loke should be perma banned for using SEQ. Froovy/Internode and his owned accounts should be perma banned. Non-offenders shouldnt be banned/suspended.

Pretty simple

GM's didnt list those accounts. Uthgaard did. He was also removed as GM after that. Rogean is top dog.... something gonna remove him now?

I didn't use SEQ. Someone I shared my account info with logged on my account and used it... I'm clearly just an innocent victim. Also, I don't really play anymore, so it is a moot point. Might be back for velious, we'll see. Just killing some time and basking in the glory of this whole thing.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda like TMO blames other collectives for individual actions right ?


Interesting how you guys can't take what you sling at other people.

RnF is RnF. This is server chat. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
TMO has always understood that RMT'ers will happen, that SEQ on a small scale will happen.
Difference is our officers/leadership doesnt get suspended for Hacking or RMT unlike other guilds IB(Perun/Kinsawt) VD(Teeroy/Najdorf) etc etc.

[dav]

Originally Posted by Zeelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Recent Exploit

Recently, I found out via Rogean's inflammatory post that 2-3 TMO members who had access to a large number of TMO accounts used some sort of item dupe at some point in time on their own characters. Froovy and Internode are two that I have heard of so far (unfortunately members trusted them with access to many accounts, including one of my alt cleric accounts), I have not heard any other evidence implicating any other TMO members. Almost all banned accounts have nothing to do with any exploit. I am sure they will enjoy their no-eq christmas holidays thanks to Rogean's new hardline approach, banning unrelated parties.




In the past, we have dealt with things legitimately. We respect GMs and speak with you through the petition forums and proper channels. I am unsure why you are attacking TMO publicly rather than coming to the leadership and trying to get to the bottom of it. I would obviously assist you any way I can & remove any parties you informed me as cheaters. Banning 80+ unrelated parties seems like a personal vendetta more than anything. Especially when you do it while calling out the guild name, saying we were lucky to not been disbanded. TMO has been playing here since when the server pop was in the low 100s. We have been helping with promoting & classicizing the server for years; perhaps we have dominated the raid scene, but we have contributed as much as we can to bug reports and making this server the classic experience Nilbog envisions.

Real Money Trading



As far as I am aware, 1 ex-TMO named Crazyeyes the King of Thieves was caught for this recently. Totally caught us off guard, there's always been people who quit EQ and cash out, how can you hold a guild accountable for that - One individual member who bails.

Why were no other guilds who had RMTers in it called out to the server? Once again seems like a targeted attack.

Raid Scene



In the past, wizard epic first had been ninja looted off of CT by an officer of a rival guild and nothing was done except a personal suspension. A VP ninja loot of an exe blade off silverwing also occurred in the past with a 1 wk personal suspension. The public announcement of disciplinary action against TMO and the actions of our crazy french Canadian SK(Who has already been suspended for weeks for the infraction - & has a 2month suspension), should have no connection if you wish to be consistent.




If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas. It seems more like you just want TMO to disband or be severely hurt. This has only been an issue since the return of the players who left for EQ mac. I hope we can resolve this and you will remove the post attacking TMO for a few individuals actions.




Thanks

What a piece of shit. I hope Rogean reads this and perma bans you on principle.

P.S. In case you haven't gathered, this post/thread is making your entire guild look WORSE, not BETTER. Nobody but TMO is buying that you guys are being treated unfairly, in fact most people think you're getting off easy.

Good work fearless leader.

[Rangerboy]

i hope rogean bans this butthole too

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RnF is RnF. This is server chat. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
TMO has always understood that RMT'ers will happen, that SEQ on a small scale will happen.
Difference is our officers/leadership doesnt get suspended for Hacking or RMT unlike other guilds IB(Perun/Kinsawt) VD(Teeroy/Najdorf) etc etc.

No they just raid interfere and get suspended when anyone dares attempt to kill anything (Since we are making broad swooping statements).

[Loke]

More ideas for punishments from people in this thread...

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...&postcount=226

These TMO guys sure have some good ideas.

[Ungriim]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All of those accounts were guilty, yet they werent perma banned, and their guilds werent raid suspended. Szeth was sold for 500$ he lives in FE now. Xeli was sold... also IB/FE Daliant bought RMT hes in IB/FE. Offenders not banned. Guilds not suspended.

Its about consistency.

If it was consistant then back in the day when TMO was at its worst, when FE was getting most outdoor dragons and training in VP, the sev kite that I fraps'd wouldve resulted in your guild being suspended for 2 weeks, your morale wouldve finally bottomed out, and you would've crumbled. So you should be happy about that inconsistancy.

[Nanjiro]

All I gotta say is this no name player is pleased to see the gm's are doing a good job.

I hope all those accounts stay perma banned.

[Lazie]

What Alarti seems to be missing with his responses above all else is.. The attitude being displayed by him and other members of TMO is one of the things specifically addressed by Rogean in his post.

He is telling everyone it is time to change the attitudes and make things amiable. Let go all of those old grudges Alarti if you wish to continue raiding here is the only advice I can give you at this point.

Start working with other guilds instead of trying your best to get each other banned or cock block each other. A change was called for from the guy in control of this box. If you want to call him "Batshit crazy" like you have in other posts... It is to your detriment, not the servers.

[Blink]

Disband TMO; ban Zeelot.