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Old 12-20-2013, 09:52 AM
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Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:53 AM
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Has anyone confirmed that the exploits were not actually performed on the 84 other accounts, and that the exploiters just moved goods through these accounts?

That seems to be the version of the story that some here want us to believe, but that doesn't match the GM's announcement imo.
which points to TMO knowing more than what they are announcing. Like 86 accounts purchased/farmed up with Duped plat.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:54 AM
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Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.
Maybe you need some better recruiting standards? Your guild continues to build a worse and worse rep for exploiters and douchebaggery.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:54 AM
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Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.
If i had 86 accounts id tell you to log in some, kill some mobs, rez me, port me around too.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:55 AM
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So cheater shit aside, how does jeremy/TMO feel about the raid etiquette every other guild has put forth for the next two weeks?
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:58 AM
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Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.
Let's pretend instead of exploiting, they just straight up stole the account. Someone trusted them with the info, just to log in for a rez, and they stripped the account, sac'd it down to 46, and transferred the plat to a mule.

What's the GM response? Nothing. You don't get your plat back, you don't get your levels back, you don't get shit. Why? Because you assumed the risk. Don't want your account in trouble? Don't share your info.

There's no reason this should be treated differently.

It's also obviously ridiculous to expect anyone to believe that 84 of these accounts were only logged in one time for a 2-minute rez session. You're taking the extreme outlier of crappy luck and trying to make it the standard.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:58 AM
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If people were complicit in exploiting, I would advocate permabanning them also. Nobody was, though. The non-exploiters who got hit the hardest were those I considered to be the most beyond reproach - they just happened to be the most trusting. I feel bad that some people are facing permabans for something they knew nothing about.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:00 AM
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:02 AM
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If people were complicit in exploiting, I would advocate permabanning them also. Nobody was, though. The non-exploiters who got hit the hardest were those I considered to be the most beyond reproach - they just happened to be the most trusting. I feel bad that some people are facing permabans for something they knew nothing about.
You shouldn't. You should stop being naive enough to believe they knew nothing about it. That's not a fact, it's an unfounded claim from a banned player. It is impossible to know whether or not a lot of these people knew. It's pretty likely that at least some of their pals knew what they were doing.
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:04 AM
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Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.
You must have the bigger pair of balls around to write this, so big that it blocks you wiew, but not ours.

Only thing u'll let in this server is bad memories. Place to future.

Btw, does guido assezan accounts ect are involved in the 86 winners ?
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