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[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's so difficult to understand? The exploits were committed by 2 people on a limited number of accounts. Nobody else knew about the exploits. These two people logged a lot of different people's accounts in their time in the guild, and now every account they've ever logged is suspended or banned despite never exploiting on most of these accounts. Some of the accounts were only logged by the offenders a single time.

2 people with access to 86 accounts exploiting and nobody else in TMO's know it....Yea fucking right..lol

[quido]

Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.

Maybe you need some better recruiting standards? Your guild continues to build a worse and worse rep for exploiters and douchebaggery.

[heazels]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of that access was temporary, like a "hey will you log my Ranger to accept a rez please?" sort of situation. I want nothing to do with any cheater, nor does the rest of my guild.

If i had 86 accounts id tell you to log in some, kill some mobs, rez me, port me around too.

[quido]

If people were complicit in exploiting, I would advocate permabanning them also. Nobody was, though. The non-exploiters who got hit the hardest were those I considered to be the most beyond reproach - they just happened to be the most trusting. I feel bad that some people are facing permabans for something they knew nothing about.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people were complicit in exploiting, I would advocate permabanning them also. Nobody was, though. The non-exploiters who got hit the hardest were those I considered to be the most beyond reproach - they just happened to be the most trusting. I feel bad that some people are facing permabans for something they knew nothing about.

You shouldn't. You should stop being naive enough to believe they knew nothing about it. That's not a fact, it's an unfounded claim from a banned player. It is impossible to know whether or not a lot of these people knew. It's pretty likely that at least some of their pals knew what they were doing.

[kbnexus]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You shouldn't. You should stop being naive enough to believe they knew nothing about it. That's not a fact, it's an unfounded claim from a banned player. It is impossible to know whether or not a lot of these people knew. It's pretty likely that at least some of their pals knew what they were doing.

What facts do you have? GM's even said its likely most of the people are banned unfairly. I know what you want to BELIEVE. But its just belief.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What facts do you have? GM's even said its likely most of the people are banned unfairly. I know what you want to BELIEVE. But its just belief.

Fact: 86 accounts were logged in by IPs that were found exploiting.

Belief: Some of those people did not know the actions of the people they gave their account information to.

I suggest we make our decisions based on facts. How about you?

[Loke]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If people were complicit in exploiting, I would advocate permabanning them also. Nobody was, though. The non-exploiters who got hit the hardest were those I considered to be the most beyond reproach - they just happened to be the most trusting. I feel bad that some people are facing permabans for something they knew nothing about.

Kind of like how you advocated for a permaban when you got caught 2 boxing in LGuk? Oh, wait... Nm.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of like how you advocated for a permaban when you got caught 2 boxing in LGuk? Oh, wait... Nm.

Never happened. I seem to remember you being deleveled though!