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Old 12-20-2013, 08:03 AM
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If you wanted TMO to change our raid scene approach, you could have asked and we would have been open to any ideas.
Eh, think the last time a discussion was supposed to happen some non-officers showed up to represent TMO, asked "where's velious?" and walked out.
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:06 AM
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Eh, think the last time a discussion was supposed to happen some non-officers showed up to represent TMO, asked "where's velious?" and walked out.
I was going to say that too!
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:07 AM
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Get a life. lol
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:32 AM
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not even sure if what?

serious cant be.

So TMO is trying to spin that only 2 players had access to 86 accounts and thats it?

I'm not buying this shit
No one is, but watch them spining is funny enough to have them carry on.

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Old 12-20-2013, 08:33 AM
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First in response to the OP. In my line of work leaders who turn a blind eye to deviations in certain policies get prosecuted by government departments and go to prison. Simply not knowing of an act isn't an alibi.

As to the current raiding situation: when lanys merged with 7th hammer we from lanys had a hell of an eye opener. We came from a server, much like this one, where one guild ruled and a bunch of smaller guilds got the table scraps. 7th hammer had I think 5 guilds that were able to compete for raid mobs. It was a much "healthier" raid scene. Perhaps TMO splitting themselves into two or more guilds would make for a more enjoyable raid scene for themselves and everyone else.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:13 AM
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Someone quick! Get the suicide hotline number on here
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:20 AM
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Eh, think the last time a discussion was supposed to happen some non-officers showed up to represent TMO, asked "where's velious?" and walked out.
Worst.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:28 AM
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What's so difficult to understand? The exploits were committed by 2 people on a limited number of accounts. Nobody else knew about the exploits. These two people logged a lot of different people's accounts in their time in the guild, and now every account they've ever logged is suspended or banned despite never exploiting on most of these accounts. Some of the accounts were only logged by the offenders a single time.
Quit sharing accounts. It isn't classic for two guys to have access to 86 accounts.

I mean, my buddy sells meth but I don't know it. If I let him borrow my car and he gets stopped by the police, my car is going to the impound. This shit is really simple. Ban them all.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:33 AM
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Failure to ban these accounts sets the precedent that if you want to cheat and receive minimal discipline for your bad acts, just involve as many accounts as possible. Actually, that's kinda already been the established precedent for awhile, I think.
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:39 AM
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no good excuse for not banning the accounts imo

it has been CLEARLY set forth as a server rule that if you share info, you are responsible for the actions of anyone who logs into your account

if 84 people were genuinely innocent (HIGHLY doubtful) but dumb enough to trust two exploiters, then 84 people sacrificed their accounts for froovy's sins

more likely, 2 prominent members without plausible deniability are taking the fall for an exploit that was rampant and well-known
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